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Disobeying offer restrictions, fuck yeah? (12)

02-22-2014 01:36 PM #1 thepeopleschamp (Member)
Disobeying offer restrictions, fuck yeah?

Sup STM!

So ive been getting into running some sweepstakes/mobile subscription stuff lately and i ripped some competitors landing pages to split test with my own. When i submitted my landing pages for approval to my affiliate network the offer owners told me to change a bunch of text on the LPs i ripped. The text they demanded i run was so ridicously bad that i'll be surprised if i see a conversion on it before the world ends.

The weird thing is that the LPs i found and ripped runs pretty nice volume to the exact same offer that wanted me to change the text. Conclusion, affiliates dont give a shit about if their LP is compliant with the advertiser as long as the advertiser doesnt notice? How easy is it for an advertiser to find your landers? (pretty easy i'd assume) Is this common for affiliates to do? What is the best preperation one can take to minimize the chance that an advertiser finds your landers?

Discuss!

02-22-2014 01:45 PM #2 dario (Member)

If you're running the LPs in U.S. there's a reason for being so strict. Are you ?

02-22-2014 01:45 PM #3 peterb ()

Just stick to the offer rules,
unless you want to risk non payment from the network or advertiser..

02-22-2014 01:46 PM #4 thepeopleschamp (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by dario View Post
If you're running the LPs in U.S. there's a reason for being so strict. Are you ?
Nah it's non-US traffic. i know you dont wanna mess with the FTC...

02-22-2014 01:47 PM #5 Mr Green (Administrator)

You are playing a risky game if you are blatantly going against restrictions. Some advertisers are so tight with restrictions, that it makes it impossible to make their offers work if you follow all their terms. Some are pretty loose. It is extremely easy for an advertiser to find your shit if they are looking.

I would advise going against breaking offer restrictions, it's a short term game, you will burn your bridges with networks too.

02-22-2014 01:48 PM #6 thepeopleschamp (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by peterb View Post
Just stick to the offer rules,
unless you want to risk non payment from the network or advertiser..
Yeah i always have been, but the combination of the extremely bad text the offer owners demanded and the fact that uncompliant text is being run by everyone else leaves me puzzled..

02-22-2014 02:50 PM #7 bbrock32 (Administrator)

It's all about risk / rewards. You just have to think if it's worth some extra bucks to potentially lose the relationship with the advertiser and not get paid.

If you want to play that game at least make sure you hide referrers / cloak aggressively.

02-22-2014 06:20 PM #8 thepeopleschamp (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by bbrock32 View Post
It's all about risk / rewards. You just have to think if it's worth some extra bucks to potentially lose the relationship with the advertiser and not get paid.

If you want to play that game at least make sure you hide referrers / cloak aggressively.
Yeah i hear you. And i understand the possible consequences of going against offer rules. But it seems like everyone else is doing it and also my AM told me to cloak when i asked him... We'll see how it goes =D

Thanks for the replies guys.

02-22-2014 06:48 PM #9 tono (Member)

Try keeping it real with your AM. See what he/she says about the advertiser.
Maybe they can recommend you an offer with less restrictions.

02-22-2014 07:43 PM #10 Adamw (AMC Alumnus)

Have you tried working with them on the copy? Send in a bunch of revisions and explain that you want to test multiple variations to increase their conversion rate while remaining compliant.

If they're not willing to at least do that, why work with them?

02-22-2014 10:26 PM #11 redrummr (Member)

I've spied a sweepstakes affiliate using "free" in 1 in 5 LP clicks. He was obviously rotating 20% of his clicks to a super-non-compliant lander to increase his overall profit by maybe 5%.

This can work if your referrer-hiding is solid (and on mobile this might negate any benefit due to the slowness of referrer-hiding) and you're doing it for the 'right' reasons (there aren't many).

02-22-2014 10:41 PM #12 karim0028 (Member)

So, im curious, what tokens does the offer see? Or do they just see the referring url? ie. do they see all the tokens you append to the URL?

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