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20 cents mobile CPI offers calculation (11)

02-16-2014 07:51 AM #1 kamaleon (Member)
20 cents mobile CPI offers calculation

Hello,

I see many CPI offers have payouts around $0.2 and was wondering how to make them profitable. I've done some math and here are my results:

Considering a conversion rate of 1% --> EPC = 0.2 * 1% = $0.002

For that offer to be profitable, we need to have a CPC lower than $0.002 (the EPC) which means $0.001 or less

Having an ad CTR of 1% (on average), it means we need to have a CPM of 0.01 (which is CPM = CPC * CTR * 1000 = 0.001 * 1% * 1000)

How the hell do you get a 0.01 CPM? Or how to make that profitable?

Thanks

02-16-2014 10:10 AM #2 iAmAttila (Veteran Member)

To figure out HOW to make them profitable you first figure out what you are wanting to pay, how much offer pays, and then you calculate what offer CVR % you need to break even, and what offer CVR % you need to get to your desired ROI.

After you know that, you run some tests, and then you see where the tests stand after significant data has been collected.

02-16-2014 11:19 AM #3 bbrock32 (Administrator)

For these kind of offers conversion can be as high as 50%

02-16-2014 11:36 AM #4 The Angry Russian (Moderator)

For all these Run of World CPI deals the game really is to get as cheap international inventory as possible and find which countries perform and target those.

Also you can try using high CTR banners with CPM bidding to get your CPCs really low.

We're making stuff work that earns under a penny all the time.

02-16-2014 01:19 PM #5 cashmoneyaffiliate (Member)

CPI are the only type of mobile offers that i promote

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Unfortunately i am not willing to reveal any offers, landing pages,banners or traffic sources that i use.

I just wanted to show you that YES it is possible to make money on these offers .

02-16-2014 02:07 PM #6 ahmedkassem (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by cashmoneyaffiliate View Post
CPI are the only type of mobile offers that i promote

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Unfortunately i am not willing to reveal any offers, landing pages,banners or traffic sources that i use.

I just wanted to show you that YES it is possible to make money on these offers .
Hide the AP column in Voluum it's pretty obvious which offers you're promoting .. also ask for payout bump .. I'm sure you could get higher than those, a penny will make a difference.

02-16-2014 02:58 PM #7 kamaleon (Member)

@cashmoneyaffiliate thanks for the screenshot, inspiring

How accurate is the CPV?

02-16-2014 04:41 PM #8 cashmoneyaffiliate (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by ahmedkassem View Post
Hide the AP column in Voluum it's pretty obvious which offers you're promoting .. also ask for payout bump .. I'm sure you could get higher than those, a penny will make a difference.
haha was in a rush... oh well i'll remember for next time

Yeah will hit my AMs about a bump.

02-16-2014 04:43 PM #9 cashmoneyaffiliate (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by kamaleon View Post
@cashmoneyaffiliate thanks for the screenshot, inspiring

How accurate is the CPV?
There pretty accurate i'd say about 85% to 90%

02-16-2014 10:05 PM #10 nefig (Member)

I've had campaigns where I was able to make $200-$500/day profit per country with offers paying about a quarter with an ROI of 200% and up.. Depends on all the factors listed above

02-19-2014 02:53 PM #11 kamaleon (Member)

Where are you guys getting such cheap clicks? The cheapest I was able to get is 0.013 on Decisive and I see in this thread clicks at 0.003 or 0.006

Hummmmmmm

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