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02-12-2014 05:44 PM #1 guillermocasta (Member)
help me get the point right guys and gals

I introduced myself as a newbie.. and been reading the forum for some hours and guides , my head is now all mixed up

I've got a couple of newbie questions

let's say I pick Facebook as Traffic source.

Can I direct link to an affiliate link? or is that not allowed?

let's say I want to promote a clickbank product -- Do I have to create a landing page which links the product's website?

quite frankly I dont understand yet what are these websites good for Neverblue, Cupid.com , Commission Junction- etc. ?

Thanks for the answers!

William

02-12-2014 10:23 PM #2 guillermocasta (Member)

any1?

02-12-2014 11:40 PM #3 nomad66 (Member)

Guiller,

I'm very new at this myself but I'll try to answer to my understanding.

-I don't plan to start on FB so I can't speak to their policy specifically about direct linking. That said, from what I read, direct linking is generally not the best bet. You are better off putting the time into making a landing page. With a landing page you can better target your particular demographic.

-As for clickbank, again I don't know if they offer direct linking but a landing page is most likely advised.

-The websites you listed vary greatly. Neverblue is an affiliate network. You would sign up with them and see what offers they currently have available, pick what you like/think will work, and tailor your campaign around it. As I understand it cupid.com is an actual offer so they would be listed with a site like neverblue (or adsimilis, f5, above all offers, etc). Instead of dealing with cupid.com you deal with neverblue (for example) and run the offers they arrange with cupid.com (and others). I'm not sure what commission-junction is all about but it sounds like another affiliate network.

Take all of that with a grain of salt. As I said I'm very new to this. New as in am still working on getting a campaign up and running.

-Evan

02-13-2014 12:06 AM #4 maynzie (Moderator)

Hey Will,

You can direct link, you don't have to use landing pages. It depends on what sort of offer you're running. If you choose POF as your traffic source, you can learn the insides and outs of targeting and narrowing down your advertising to fit the consumer, there is GOLDMINES of threads available for POF on this forum too.

You can start direct linking dating offers on POF too and this will help you get some experience.

Landing pages are used for a bit more experience marketers who want to gain an edge over their competition or increase the quality of the leads they're delivering to the network.

let me know if you need any thing else

02-13-2014 12:15 AM #5 nomad66 (Member)

Maynzie,

I'll chime in then with a question if you don't mind.

As you saw from my post I was planning on putting the time into landing pages (and thought I'd read enough saying it was worthwhile). If you were brand new to this and running dating offers would you bother with a LP or just DL and spend the time making more and more creatives/campaigns?

Thanks,
Evan

02-13-2014 03:52 AM #6 mscimitar (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by nomad66 View Post
Maynzie,

I'll chime in then with a question if you don't mind.

As you saw from my post I was planning on putting the time into landing pages (and thought I'd read enough saying it was worthwhile). If you were brand new to this and running dating offers would you bother with a LP or just DL and spend the time making more and more creatives/campaigns?

Thanks,
Evan
You should do both, split test DL and a lander or two and see what gives you better results. While in most cases for dating, a landing page wins out, it's always good to ease the doubts in your mind with a split test. A good method to follow is to load up a variety of creatives and don't start cutting them until you decide on a landing page + offer. Once you have your conversion funnel down, then you start cutting and testing creatives like mad.

02-13-2014 10:09 AM #7 guillermocasta (Member)

thanks for the answers, I gotta say I'm really lost with so much info... gotta take this slow cos one can get easily overloaded if you're new to this

02-13-2014 12:21 PM #8 guillermocasta (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by maynzie View Post
Hey Will,

hey, thanks

You can direct link, you don't have to use landing pages. It depends on what sort of offer you're running. If you choose POF as your traffic source, you can learn the insides and outs of targeting and narrowing down your advertising to fit the consumer, there is GOLDMINES of threads available for POF on this forum too.

You can start direct linking dating offers on POF too and this will help you get some experience.

Landing pages are used for a bit more experience marketers who want to gain an edge over their competition or increase the quality of the leads they're delivering to the network.

let me know if you need any thing else

what I don't really get about landing pages, maybe you can show me one... I'd like to see a landing page for CPA offer, I'd like to see a landing page for a PPC offer, and also for a click bank product.

Can you help with that?

thank you very much... being a newbie aint easy, but you guys make the experience much better

thanks

02-13-2014 03:00 PM #9 dynamicsoul (Member)

why do people insist on sending newbies to POF?.. it's like wishing them to fail..

02-13-2014 03:06 PM #10 guillermocasta (Member)

Could anyone show me a landing page for CPA offer, and a landing page for a PPC offer, and also for a click bank product.? if possible?

do you recommend creating a landing page for a Clickbank product? - can that be advertised on Facebook? ... I am too new to this so sorry if I'm asking nonsense guys, thanks

02-13-2014 03:36 PM #11 nomad66 (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by dynamicsoul View Post
why do people insist on sending newbies to POF?.. it's like wishing them to fail..
Care to elaborate on this? Where would you recommend for newbies if not POF?

02-13-2014 03:54 PM #12 caurmen (Administrator)

Landing pages: here are a few hundred examples

http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...ing-Adult-more

I think there's one of each in there at least!

Note: PPC means "Pay Per Click", and refers to how you're buying your traffic. "CPA" means "Cost Per Action", and usually refers to a type of offer: one that pays out on a signup rather than needing a sale. It's entirely possible to have a landing page for a PPC campaign that's running a CPA offer!

02-13-2014 05:54 PM #13 guillermocasta (Member)

so, in order to make it profitable your CPA payout has to be higher than the PPC, right? - I mean what you earn per click, EPC? maybe?

thanks a lot for the answers

02-14-2014 12:50 PM #14 caurmen (Administrator)

@guillermocasta - not exactly, although you're on the right lines!

To be profitable, your Earnings Per Click has to be higher than your Cost Per Click. You can calculate your Earnings Per Click by multiplying the percentage of visitors who get to your offer and convert (the Conversion Rate) by your offer payout.

So, for example, if you're paying $0.30 per click, and you're pushing a $5 payout offer that converts 10% of the time, you're profitable: $5 * 10% = $0.50 .

Does that make sense?

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