What Niches Work on FB Right Now...? (26)
Hi guys,
After going through STM forum for the past week and preparing my Prosper202 setup, I'm at the point where I need to decide on a traffic source.
Then pounce on it HARD...until I etch out that positive ROI.
Giving myself a personal deadline to make it happen.
Judging by all of the cash being thrown at FB accounts and older FB posts, this seems to where a lot of the money is made for many affiliates. Even if it's for the short-term. My question is what niches are currently recommended as both safe and works without getting banned on Facebook?
In other words, what's working outside of cloaking banned niches on FB?
I've read suggestions for clean verticals like gaming for example, but I haven't seen people making bank with it. Seems like the majority of the focus is on dating offers but with cloaking.
Any advice is helpful as I'd like to get start off on the right foot and save on that "R&D costs" making mistakes.
No one is going to give you any answers of value in an open forum even one with a private member base.
Originally Posted by waltermitty
Then let me rephrase the question, "What example verticals with a reasonable shot, should I try on FB without fear of getting banned"?
In my defense:
http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...s-how-I-do-POF
That's a thread I dug from Mayzie outright giving out what works on PoF from 2011. I can point to other examples.
Also here's what's on STM's main page:
"We give you campaigns, case studies and guides that work with offers right now."
Been hearing from admins not to worry about asking stupid questions. *Shrug
For the record, if I wasn't clear enough, I'm not asking people to out their campaigns and hand me their money. That's highway robbery.
Given that FB is apparently banning people, and a lot of the earlier threads go in-depth on dating offers, I'm left scratching my head on what I should try. I don't think that's an unreasonable question as somebody new who wanted to do FB.
Guess I've made the wrong assumption here on what questions cross the line.
Gaming is a safe niche to promote.
Diet will mostly mean you are going to lose your account.
Dating I dont think they are allowing it yet.
I did not mean to come off as harsh as I think you took it. Gaming is probably safe as getzlaf15 suggested but with Facebook everything is always safe until its not.
This doesn't cross the line at all! No way.
If I was you, I'd develop (rewrite/enhance) a diet eBook and make it a quality product, then work on a funnel to extract as much $ from the back end as possible. I see independent diet products/funnels competing now for months (against the usual muscle flogs) on my personal FB account's ad space! As long as you don't have a sensational lander (FB doesn't like these, as per their guidelines) you should be ok. Also FB doesn't approve of taking information in exchange for something, but I see many non-cloaked landers pulling off an opt-in successfully - try answering the ad (delivering the promise) on the left hand side of your lander and have a big opt-in on the right.
Most affiliates are not banking on the back end so that is your ticket to parity with those who do shadier stuff.
You can deliver more sensational/persuasive content later in the funnel (i.e. email sequence).
If you have a quality product you should be sweet. Use E-junkie integration with PayPal to auto-deliver products. When I sold my own music production and women's health ebooks, my refund rate was under 2%.
You could also promote Clickbank products this way but it's not best IMO.
One super-charged conversion trick I created myself was to offer a discount to people who had not bought within 2 days, by sending an email saying there was a special deal for people from [their state]. By not using their state on any landing page but instead in email 2 days later (you pass the variable along to Aweber or whatever service you use, as soon as they opt in - standard maxmind/geo stuff), they will think it's 100% genuine (it looks corny on websites as they know it's a script). Withholding the info for a while is magic... 30% of my sales (from memory) came from this 1 email in my sequence. I learned this trick of withholding information (past the point of plausible extraction) from a magic tutorial I watched when I was like 14 lol.
You gotta be creative and send more to test (as everything is untested, not just your ads: product, opt-in, landers, email sequence), but diet is evergreen and you can 100% make it work. Put 2k towards it and test like a mofo, you can really make something out of this especially if your product is superb.
Out of 100 people, 30-40 will opt in, 1 will buy the product at full price (once copy/funnel is optimised), 1 will buy at half price and more will buy on further discounts. It's all about your email sequence and back end.
Gaming is cool but it's less effective when using pictures of people/skin. FB ads die and live by the amount of skin they have... So niches like dating, skin, diet and stuff will always have the best CPCs and ROI. (My opinion.)
EDIT:
** To satisfy with any grumpy FB people (even though you are following their guidelines), I suggest you also include a Skype number with pre-recorded answering message - can be had for cheap, outsource the message to oDesk if you don't like your own voice), links at the bottom for all the regular stuff (terms and conditions, about, contact, why we advertise on Facebook) and more ("Scientific papers used to support our claims" - use examine.com for all your claims and sources) etc.
Fantastic post, Redrummr! One for the newsletter for sure.
Originally Posted by classymonet
Furthermore, I think you are being smart to try to create campaigns that are above board. That is a much more sustainable way to build a business.
Sniff out other ads using social ad ninja. This will let you set to see ads that have run over X amount of days. If an ad is running over a decent time line you can assume its positive ROI. Than you can check out the lander and see what they are offering. Don't copy ppl straight off because that's just a way to get on the wrong path of thinking, but it will surely spark some ideas! GL
Originally Posted by waltermitty
Thanks for the supportive posts guys, this will spark some ideas.
@ Redrummr, that's one helluva good post! That's actually close to the trajectory I was aiming for. I was hoping to take some practice swings as an affiliate first before diving in and launching my own products with the right data. However, if that's what it takes on FB, then I guess the best option is to start off with the products first to test. At least it's "sort of" a barrier to entry with the price of admission being more sweat work.
Nonetheless, let me get this straight. Am I safe to test out diet supplements/e-books/widgets etc as long if I'm a merchant? Or will I still risk my account getting Zucker Punched like any other affiliate simply because of the niche...?
I have a hairloss product Kerafiber for men and woman thats doing well on fb for the US and now the UK
Do you ship to AU mikepceo? Hit me up on PM. I don't drive a lot of volume but am keen to try.
don't want to hijack the thread. but, speaking of gaming niche, here is my confusion. let me give a specific example, r2games.com provides lot of good games. so, you run the ad. bring people to landing page(landing.r2games.com) one way or the other. But, I also notice that you can play r2games.com in facebook as an app... How does the whole thing work out?
@cottonsugar - how do you mean?
Generally, games or other sites (like dating sites) that have a website and an FB app promote them as two separate offers.
Originally Posted by jdenhaan
We all know the "teach a man to fish..." parable. You need to learn how to find out what's working on FB on your own. What's working today, may not be working tomorrow. The best way to find out what's workin, imo, is to use a spy tool like social ad spy or lots of ads.
You can also recreate what those tools do for your niche. Create a ton of profiles that match your demographic and see what ads are being served to them. Of course, you'll need to know how to use proxies to do this properly.
@caurmen I often saw promote offer for a website not for FB app. But, I just start. Probably, I just have not seen enough.
Originally Posted by caurmen
Originally Posted by classymonet
In fact I must say, FB is doing weird things right now. I think the dating affiliates having dropped off has made FB try to entice higher spend. In the past few days two of my accounts have been bumped to 1.5k per day (1687 AUD), and they were only spending 200-300 each... one was at 750 limit, one was 500. So they must want money... this is kinda what happened when they had their IPO. Which means right now FB is probably happier to accept money being thrown at them as long as you're not being stupid and drawing attention to yourself. Great time to get into FB for every niche, especially those that aren't dating.
Newsletter: Watch your inbox We haven't put one out for a couple of months (my bad, other things got in the way) but there's one coming on Monday filled with goodies.
does that go out to everyone? If not can I get on that train? 
@bshimmer - if you haven't gotten it today, pm me.
Hey guys - curious has anyone every had success on Facebook with download offers? We're currently playing with the idea and looking at running an internal test. Any thoughts?
Me too please
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