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(NSFW)Walkthrough of $300/day+ Adult WAP campaign (With a Twist) (49)

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Yo Lads and Ladettes, here is a campaign walkthrough for you of a WAP campaign I ran in Germany for months and months on end, which was making anywhere from $200-700 profit a day (Weekends were the larger days). My goal is to show you it really is quite simple to make it work, but of course there is a sneaky little twist in it that pushed this campaign into the heavy green. This campaign is 100% still viable but you will need to shake it up with some fresh content and I am sure the bids will fluctuate from this post haha.

Oh and I am also incredibly excited to be with all you who can make it to Bangkok it is going to be an absolute blast in Bangkoks craziness and the island retreat!



As I have said on this forum many times before, affiliate marketing constantly blows my mind so stepping out of the box you can really find some of the simpler nasty profits still.

So lets get to the campaign!

Tracking:

I simply used CPVLabs for this, which I almost always use. Its very simple for an untechnical dude like me, and for adult wap I personally never track carriers/handsets. I find that if you start playing around with these variables on adult sources not only to you severely limit your traffic volume but you pay an arm and a leg for traffic. I am not saying it doesn't work, it does, but I personally don't worry about it

Also I kept my tracking very simple, =PH-F-3 would mean Pornhub footer ad 3 etc (Keep it simple stackas!)

Traffic Source:

I used Trafficjunky and Adbucks for this one, 75% TJ 25% AB.

Placements:

TJ: I used Pornhub and Youporn footers and headers
AB: I used madthumbs and Xhamsters footers and headers

Bids:

I was bidding between 0.30-0.45cpm, but always making sure I was number 1 and taking the majority of the traffic + I had plenty of room to move with the ROI.

Budget:

I set my campaign budgets to $20,000 daily. No you will not spend $20,000 in a day on german wap, but for some reason this is the sweet spot for maxing your traffic in the algorithm, a wise soul gave me this tip!

Landers:

I was rotating 2 landing pages, one did considerably better then the other but having 2 on rotation gave this campaign a lot more extended life.

Lander 1: http://i.imgur.com/OsDyYd3.jpg
Lander 2: http://i.imgur.com/ESR4sqk.jpg

Banners:

I have included all the banners that were at one stage profitable for this campaign, how ever some definitely stood out more then others. I would rotate between 3 profitable banners and when they died out I would swap in 3 more and just kept a constant rotation every week or so to keep the campaign in the green.

You can view them all here bros! http://imgur.com/a/vbXYv#0

Offers:

Now this was the TWIST. I ran edates Germany, the web optimised offer and no idea why but mobile users converted on this like wildfire. My epc ranged from 0.50-0.60 which was extremely profitable in comparison to the other german adult wap offers out there like Benaughty. In affiliate marketing leave no stone unturned, sometimes even the wackiest of ideas can add some layers to your bank roll. Do not forget TEST TEST TEST!

BUT TAKE NOTE: Before you go throwing all the web offers you can find into split testing its important to note that not all web offers will take wap traffic and that they could actually exclude your leads if they found you violated their terms so always check with your affiliate manager before you do this to save your emotional rollercoaster.

Another offer that was very similar to this german setup was an Australian wap campaign which I used basically the exact same above setup but with English translated lander/banners. The offer I used was Shagaholic and it had an epc of $1.50+ which is pretty decent for AU wap.

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Madd dawgg with another mad post. Mad respect man. I ran into this situation by fluke as I put the wrong offer link in my tracking and was left scratching my head as to why the cvr was on fire. With a bit of digging, found it was a web offer. Quickly ran it by my AM and it was the day I pushed myself to work 24hrs to test other web offers that would convert on wap. Check with your AM though like maynize said.

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Holy!! I have only been here a couple days and the amount of gold you guys share is unbeleavable! Thanks for sharing! I can't wait to start testing this stuff with my own twist in a month or two.

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Great post and thanks for sharing. I wont be jumping on germany though. Too.busy with my mobile.content billing campaigns to lose focus atm

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I respect your hustle. 24 hours is no easy feat I have never even gotten close to that! But a common regret in most seasoned aff marketers is not pushing a campaign for all its worth while its there for the taking, hopefully your out of the box thinking and hard work ethic paid off my man you're a soldier!

Awesome bro, I've been looking at this vertical lately too its interesting so far!

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Wow! Awesome post and great value.

Would you recommend having a server in that geo or use a CDN? My server is located in the us and I find my conversions are not that great.

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damn thats awesome

cheers maynzie

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Great share @maynzie
I was always hesitate to test mobile due to carrier/handset optimization. I am going to start testing mobile.

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Epic post. Just goes to show that you gotta test and the money will come.

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Reminds me when i was pushing wap ringtone offer on Yahoo search It was converting like crazy.

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Good idea bro, there is still plenty of money in adult WAP just have to go against the herd and where the saturation is. US WAP is pretty hard to get going because some of your competition will be getting $3-4 even $5/lead which is too much to compete with, sticking to some european countries or latam is a good bet, especially with a great paying/converting web offer

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Baller walkthrough dude!

I'm curious, how do you set up your initial bidding on Adbucks? I'm noticing the winning bid there is wayyy higher than the recommended bid. Do you generally just bid somewhere in the middle and play with it?

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Yah dude I just play around with it usually start 30% less then that bid see how much traffic you get and adjust accordingly, its a good source when you find the sweet spots still pretty unsaturated compared to exo/tj

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Absolutely fantastic case study! We just moved from mobo to adult considering it would be easier to get moving and keep us motivated.. Thanks Maynzie !!

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You're welcome bro, glad it helped motivating you

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Okay damn this campaign was much larger then I thought it was, got a PM from a successful affiliate who has taken this to the next level...

Scaling is legit forever, keep searching for the traffic if you have a winning offer/lander combo

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this x1000

Ive been messing around a bit with different banner sizes, some that are just not that popular and unused, going away and testing out away from the usual 315x300 and 300x250 and I am seeing MASSIVE banner CTR's



maybe its banner/placement size combo or what but whatever it is, its working very well


making for a pretty sweet ROI

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killing it angry old lady!

Love that stuff

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Forgive my newness... Setting your campaign to $20K, did you spend that or anywhere close? In my mind, that seems tough spending 20K to make $27K. It looks like this CPA stuff takes a lot of money.

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Hey bro, no no I set to $20,000 because that seems to give you more traffic on Trafficjunky.

I was spending low $xxx/day

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cheers bud

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Hey Maynzie,

Glad to hear about how well you are doing. We wanted to point out that setting a $20,000 bid does not give you more traffic on TrafficJunky.

Changes in our algorithm means that it takes your actual account balance into account as well as the daily budgets that you set and tries to distribute traffic as evenly as possible throughout the day (24 hours).

That being said, you sometimes won't get a lot of traffic if your daily budget is so high and your account balance can't match it. Our system is set up to prevent overspends so you won't necessarily see a lot of traffic just because your daily budget is $20,000.

We see a lot of people posting on forums about using a 20k budget to maximize traffic but it's really not the best way to maximize traffic.

It would be best to have a daily budget that closely matches what is in your account. You might possibly end up seeing more traffic that way.

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^ thanks for your response, I always just noticed that if you looked at the bidding if two people were bidding the same amount, the person with the $20k budget had considerably more traffic then the other, unless this is to do with the freq caps?

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It might be. But it also might be due to the fact that one person has a higher account balance than the other. If one has a 20k budget with $100 in their account and the other has $600, the $600 will go a lot further than $100 during 24 hours so our algorithm will know to allocate more traffic to the account with the higher account balance.

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Great info & very generous post maynzie,

I'm curious, when you run a campaign like this, how much of your time does it take up?

Do you run many campaigns at the same time or would this be you sole focus?

Thanks again

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^ fortunately a campaign like this, is very very simple to run. I always check my stats in the morning and when things start to slow down I will spend some hours creating some new banners 20-30 and begin to rotate them through. I run quite a few campaigns when I run self serve, something like this is beautiful because its quite easy to scale it through similar countries with similar offers, (edates has more countries guys )!

For the money I earn, I work VERY small hours, we spoke to a tailor in bangkok yesterday (Tailor on Ten if anyones been there) one of the biggest in Bangkok and he works 12-18 hours 7 days a week for similar pay checks. Very big perspective for us sitting in there getting suits done, we have it very easy in affiliate marketing when you crack the code. As long you trust the process its very easy to find gems in the rock, keep launching campaigns and eventually one will work if you have a good process.

Once again, passion never fails was the similar theme, he said working that many hours is not hard because he absolutely lives for it.

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I have tested this TIP myself...

Although I still haven't get to the green part... (still testing here and there)

But my biggest problem is...

"BEING FOCUS"...

watching/viewing the GIF's is turning me on... and me watching the entire clip... and there goes my 30minutes.. GONE!

okay move on... *watch/view m.pornhub or m.youporn... damn that girl is hot... and again... me watching the entire clip... another 30 minutes... GONE!

Can you guys teach me the secret of fighting temptation? lol...

Although I only spent $200 and got back $100... (I know... the gold mine is there somewhere...)

watching/viewing pages of a porn site... is a big challenge...

especially if you see some "DAYUM GIRL" doing her thing... LOL

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Disable flash you wont be able to see the videos, use your will to not fap over the banners lol. Maybe rub a quick one out in the morning so you can focus, the money is better then the fantasy is bro stay FOCUSED!!!

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I remember hearing that most german porn passes are bought via mobile. Also South Africa. That could explain why mobile did so well in germany. That's how they buying there.

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How long did this campaign last for you? Did you end up testing more offers after this died out?

This thread alone is worth 99/mth.. thanks Manzie!

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Fact: It still works, and probs will work for a long time still its no where near dead yet. It has a tonne of room to pioneer as well, the whole adult industry does. The rules lander is not the only type of lander that will work, there is infinite possibilities of better performing things

I've had a few PM's from people who've taken it further, new landers/banners will keep this offer going for a long time. Like I said there are other countries too to scale into. I personally ran this for a few months, but my time was spread to thin decided to focus on my larger direct buy campaigns instead (80/20).

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And you're welcome, I'm glad you enjoyed this and STM

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can confirm. this trick still works


one thing I have noticed that I haven't seen mentioned in STM. Anyone stepping out International away from the usual popular countries and testing in some that have quite a significant cultural difference, a lot of countries seem to have their own local porn sites that get a significant amount of traffic and convert incredibly well, while the big sites may convert poorly. hell, even Russia has their own version of YouTube (http://rutube.ru/)

The hard part is just finding them. One of the geos I am running in, I cannot for the life of me get anything on TJ to work. one placement, although very low amount of traffic has consistently been kicking around the 600-700% ROI for me. pretty much pure profit


if you can find those little pockets of gold, you can run a campaign that is physically impossible to be in the negative. seriously.

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Y u do dis Kiefer XD

His not wrong, cat is out of the bag.

I'll start with 1, Italy - http://www.megasesso.com

Hopefully that sparks some creativity this thread just got 1000x more profitable

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@ angry old lady- Ponderous, was just searching for a native language porn site in a foreign country the other day and came up empty... This was something I was going to go to a native and ask about... It isn't easy to ferret these out but I'm sure it's a money maker.

@ maynzie- like the shirt on 'Angelika 27' a gift perhaps? ;D

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lol

yep! there's a good site. never ran Italy or that placement before but I assume it get some decent traffic and low bids.

there is a LOT of regional specific porn sites out there. to me it seems like a lot of people end up battling for the NTV spots for all the major premium sites. and a lot of these regional specific sites despite having a decent amount of traffic and convert incredibly well, they also have low bids. for example:


although porn.com or hostedtube.com aren't exactly regional sites, he does raise a good point. i can't speak for any english speaking country as I have never tried, but every foreign country I have targeted, I was always able to find at least one local site and have gotten incredibly good results. I suppose the only downside is you end up split testing a lot.

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Hello godspeed, does your username "godspeed" have any religious significance? Just curious!

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the higher budget set up, the more traffic will come ?
with the bid no change

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Unfortunately not as TJ confirmed in this thread, it seemed to work however it doesn't hold true in all cases

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I think it's something related of how much money does the account have. Not about the 20k .

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im late to the party, just saw this thread
pure fckin gold maynzie
i also was in bangkok meeting, one of the guys from Montréal traveling nonstop
cant put a face on your STM nickname tho, help me out

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^ Oh haha from Montreal, I must of met you there were quite a few of you though did come to Samui as well, friends with Ian, Chris and Dan?

sure thing man this might help

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maynzie

1. is this offer SOI?
2. HOW IS THE PAYOUT

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I think it was DOI man, and the payout was around $10 which was very good. Edates rebranded not to long ago to flirtydates, whole new brand and front end, might be a chance to dust this campaign off and hit that offer hard while they're refreshing their brand + DB

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Edates accept adult traffic ? Saw on my network that it has to due with casual dating. Just asking

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^ Maybe has changed only recently, but edates for as long as I've known has always been open to casual traffic man and I believe the majority of their traffic is/was casual?

Always double check with your network before running, better safe then sorry

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Oh ya, I think they get 90% adult , used to be a really good offer.

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I ask because my am told me this offer doesn't accept adult dating traffic, just normal dating traffic like pof...My networks it's adsimilis.

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Which network do u use?

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