PPV pubs getting popped over...... (10)
My AM told me someone's been going hogwild popping over ppv pubs' domains as well as advertisers' lp's....no wonder Ive been scrambling trying to figure out how conversions dropped suddenly..... I can see how changing up all domains will solve MOST of the problem... however when the advertiser lp is targetted how can you possibly go around getting popped over?
Last cookie wins. When he pops over your pop, his cookie comes 0.3 milliseconds after yours and thus is the last one.
thats mean you're screwed ?
This happens mostly on LI. TV wont' allow double pops.
On LI, check often if someone is bidding on your domain and bid on his domain in turn and try to use a new domain.
Offtopic : This reminds me of what I did 3 years ago when running heavy on PPV. I was buying tons of traffic so some guys noticed.
One of them would bid on every domain of mine , no matter how often I changed. That got me really pissed off.
So what I did ( in pure rage ) , was to put an invisible iframe on all my landers , and that iframe looked like this :
<img scr="http://competitor.com/?t202kw=stop+bidding+on+domain.com+you+little+cunt ">
<img scr="http://competitor.com/?t202kw=stop+bidding+on+domain.com+you+little+cunt ">
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<img scr="http://competitor.com/?t202kw=stop+bidding+on+domain.com+you+little+cunt ">
Like 1000 times on a row.
Basically every time a user would land on my page, 1000 requests would be sent to the guy's domain from this user.
Needles to say after the first 15 mins his server was unreachable.
Tomorrow morning I see on my prosper keyword report smth like "Sorry+about+that+wont+bid+on+your+domain+anymore" .
I hope the guy is not a member here , that would be hilarious 
that dude is a hard working one
Originally Posted by bbrock32
On LI, check often if someone is bidding on your domain and bid on his domain in turn and try to use a new domain.
Offtopic : This reminds me of what I did 3 years ago when running heavy on PPV. I was buying tons of traffic so some guys noticed.
One of them would bid on every domain of mine , no matter how often I changed. That got me really pissed off.
So what I did ( in pure rage ) , was to put an invisible iframe on all my landers , and that iframe looked like this :
<img scr="http://competitor.com/?t202kw=stop+bidding+on+domain.com+you+little+cunt ">
<img scr="http://competitor.com/?t202kw=stop+bidding+on+domain.com+you+little+cunt ">
.
.
.
<img scr="http://competitor.com/?t202kw=stop+bidding+on+domain.com+you+little+cunt ">
Like 1000 times on a row.
Basically every time a user would land on my page, 1000 requests would be sent to the guy's domain from this user.
Needles to say after the first 15 mins his server was unreachable.
Tomorrow morning I see on my prosper keyword report smth like "Sorry+about+that+wont+bid+on+your+domain+anymore" .
I hope the guy is not a member here , that would be hilarious
I would LOVE to do this... so you put that actual code on your iFramed page 1000 x's? Also, when you check if he's bidding on your domain.. would you bid on the entire domain ...Im wondering if he were to bid on a shortened version of my URL would that still cause him to pop over mine (that would suck since I wouldnt know exactly which shortened version he's bidding on)
I put as the iframe src a file named frame.html and within that file i put 1000 img tags with his url.
I found out by running the spyware on a VM and opening my domain.
*Applauds* That's genius. You, sir, win the Internets.
That's even better than the idea I had reading this, which was to write a script to pop an invisible modal with a cookie in it 2 sec after your page opens. Should work in theory (you might have to do some funky AJAX shit), but not nearly as funny.
Just started out with PPV on TV...
I'm using a landing page to promote an offer which converts after checkout (4th page). Silly question: What exactly is the point of doing that, if someone else could just pop on one of those intermediary pages?
My landing page is not the last hop before the conversion-page.
Will direct-linking and cookie dropping always win for offers that do not directly convert inside the first popup?
I know TV doesn't pop so often, but even with 15 mins in between, lots of sales could be lost.
I'm now considering moving to an offer which converts directly in the first (my) pop with PPV.. Is that the better idea?
Thanks for reading
@papermaker
I can see you doing here what I used to do when starting out. OVERTHINKING!
Stop it, just give the campaign a go. Spend $50-$100 and decide from the results.
In AM there are so many variables it's impossible to predict if a campaign will be a winner or a loser.
Test and base your decisions on actual results.
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