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01-04-2014 12:33 AM
#1
servandosilva (Member)
Spain Mobile Traffic and weird offers
Hello guys.
I'm starting with Mobile traffic and want to run some tests to learn fast in January. Got some money to spend and have read the guides and case studies on this forum.
There's a pair of CPA networks I've used before with Facebook Fanpages (not to be confused with Facebook Ads) and it could potentially lead to 3-4 figures earnings per day. As you all know, FB is getting harder and harder so mobile is my next.
I've already signed up to some of the recommended mobile networks here (incrowd, mobfox, inmobi) and added some funds to test, and have the offers ready.
Most of them are for Spain/Mexico, so I'm going to start with that, but I could use some help here.
1 For mobile traffic, should I use a landing page or can I link directly the URL?
2 Many spanish campaigns already offer the ads and ad hosting (CDN), but most of them are awful or just confusing. I tried submitting one to incrowd and it got rejected due to misleading banner (even though I took it from the CPA campaign). Shall I create my own banners? I don't want to be banned or get all my campaigns rejected due to my lack of knowledge. I'm not trying to cheat anyone (even though Facebook worked really well with confusing campaigns)
3 For banners, do you prefer static (jpeg, png) or do you use flash (swf) format?
4 Most campaigns conversion works after PIN submit. Would you target anything special aside from the country? (i.e. wifi vs 3g, specific OS or something?)
Thanks in advance for your help 
EDIT: I'm already digging into the STM Mobile tracker. Hopefully have it installed and working in 1-2 weeks.
01-04-2014 01:41 AM
#2
h0mp (Member)
1:
Mostly depends on the offer. For example: buy-on-impulse offers can do well without an LP. You'll have to test anyway.
2:
Yes, create your own banners and have them approved on both ends.
3:
I like GIF animated banners. The animation can be subtle. However, some networks have certain rules when it comes to animations.
4:
Some offers only accept leads from certain carriers and/or certain OS's. Be sure to check that out. And test. 
01-04-2014 10:36 PM
#3
stackman (Administrator)
To further dig into #1
It will always change for every offer. Usually offers paying $1 or less you direct link (that's the best rule to give in a world of no rules)
Otherwise you want to test both direct linking and multiple landing pages.
01-05-2014 04:41 PM
#4
Mr Green (Administrator)
#3 I would stick to static images in testing phase, they work just as well in most cases. Your time can be better spent than building animated banners.
01-05-2014 06:49 PM
#5
servandosilva (Member)

Originally Posted by
h0mp
1:
Mostly depends on the offer. For example: buy-on-impulse offers can do well without an LP. You'll have to test anyway.
2:
Yes, create your own banners and have them approved on both ends.
3:
I like GIF animated banners. The animation can be subtle. However, some networks have certain rules when it comes to animations.
4:
Some offers only accept leads from certain carriers and/or certain OS's. Be sure to check that out. And test.

1. Fine. mores testing to do
2. On the CPA networks i'm working most of their campaigns can be used without any banner you create. But i'll have an eye because i've seen some of them only allow their own banners.
3. Will check, but otherwise I'll start with static.
4. Will check. Thanks
01-05-2014 06:50 PM
#6
servandosilva (Member)

Originally Posted by
stackman
To further dig into #1
It will always change for every offer. Usually offers paying $1 or less you direct link (that's the best rule to give in a world of no rules)
Otherwise you want to test both direct linking and multiple landing pages.
Sounds like a good starting point, stackman. I'll consider it, but many offers from Spain are actually $50-15. So I'll have to test both.
For Mexico, most offers i've seen are below or just above $1, so direct linking there.
I'll keep you updated!
01-05-2014 06:51 PM
#7
servandosilva (Member)

Originally Posted by
Mr Green
#3 I would stick to static images in testing phase, they work just as well in most cases. Your time can be better spent than building animated banners.
Noted.
And my photoshop skills are really poor! I could have my GF help me with that, as i'm more into code and testing. but probably for a second/third phase.
01-06-2014 05:22 PM
#8
servandosilva (Member)
1 quick question:
When you do landing pages, do you usually prepare them all in the same domain no matter what niche/campaign you're promoting? or do you try to use a domain name related to the campaign for each?
I'd rather have them all in a single domain.
01-06-2014 06:03 PM
#9
bbrock32 (Administrator)

Originally Posted by
servandosilva
1 quick question:
When you do landing pages, do you usually prepare them all in the same domain no matter what niche/campaign you're promoting? or do you try to use a domain name related to the campaign for each?
I'd rather have them all in a single domain.
Register a generic domain like com-.mobi and set up subdomains for niches , i.e android.com-.mobi and so on.
This way you won't have to register a thousand domains.
01-06-2014 08:04 PM
#10
h0mp (Member)
The animation can be really easy and small.. maybe just a button changing shape or colour. It's fairly easy to do.
Creating your own banners can give you an edge on anyone else using the supplied banners.. since they are often actually not all that great and probably over-used.
Don't misinterpret the $1 rule.
Because you can't compare payouts from different geos like Mexico and Spain with eachother.
The same type of offer can have a $0.80 payout in MX while payout in ES is $2.50.
01-08-2014 04:53 AM
#11
servandosilva (Member)

Originally Posted by
bbrock32
Register a generic domain like com-.mobi and set up subdomains for niches , i.e android.com-.mobi and so on.
This way you won't have to register a thousand domains.
Thanks for the advice. i actually have a few domains that I can use as your example. Just never thought about using subdomains.

Originally Posted by
h0mp
The animation can be really easy and small.. maybe just a button changing shape or colour. It's fairly easy to do.
Creating your own banners can give you an edge on anyone else using the supplied banners.. since they are often actually not all that great and probably over-used.
Don't misinterpret the $1 rule.
Because you can't compare payouts from different geos like Mexico and Spain with each other.
The same type of offer can have a $0.80 payout in MX while payout in ES is $2.50.
True. A good paying offer in one country can be a low paying offer in another. But now I have the idea. Thank you.
I just got my first Ad approved at incrowd and I've hit the play button but after 12 hours there are no statistics or anything appears to be moving around. Is there any obvious thing I could be missing? The date of start and finish was alright, even though I just moved it for tomorrow now because didn't see anything today.
01-08-2014 06:40 AM
#12
Mr Green (Administrator)
Your bid was to low. Or, your running an ad format with minimal traffic. What are you bidding?
01-08-2014 04:53 PM
#13
servandosilva (Member)

Originally Posted by
Mr Green
Your bid was to low. Or, your running an ad format with minimal traffic. What are you bidding?
I'm bidding for Canada traffic in a 728x90 Ad format (supposedly the second with most traffic after 320x50?).
I've checked the bid price and my CPM is higher than all the subcategories (wifi, canada, content site). Current bid = $0.57
01-09-2014 11:03 AM
#14
Mr Green (Administrator)
I would highly recommend starting with 320x50.
The impression count is too small with 728x90. There are 3,000,000 total. You are cutting half of that with wifi only, and another half with sites only. As a test I would run your bid at $1.01 just out of curiosity. But if you want to get any kind of decent volume I would stick with 320x50.
01-09-2014 04:49 PM
#15
servandosilva (Member)
My next test would be 320x50, but I wanted tablet traffic as much as possible.
Somehow it was the incrowd planner which was not working with my timezone. I just deleted the time settings (set to no limit) and it started working. The Bid is 0.56 and so far it has won (41%) of the bids with a CPM of 0.37.
I'm tracking the traffic and the numbers are almost the same as reported with incrowd.
I'll update you with the results next monday, since this is a private company affiliate program and they only update me with the results once per week.
01-09-2014 05:08 PM
#16
godspeed (Member)

Originally Posted by
servandosilva
I'll update you with the results next monday, since this is a private company affiliate program and they only update me with the results once per week.
Why are you still using them?
01-09-2014 05:13 PM
#17
servandosilva (Member)

Originally Posted by
godspeed
Why are you still using them?
Great question.
Because in some niches I have, they're converting really well, and the payment per lead is really good. I really like they service and even use it myself.
They used to run under an affiliate network which was so much easier to track in real time, but they went completely internal after a few months. There are 2 changes that kept me with them:
1. They doubled (from $50 to $100 per lead) their payment for their affiliates
2. They closed their affiliate application program, only keeping their best affiliates. That means almost no competition and/or saturation to test this campaigns.
But yeah, their internal tracking system sucks. They're working on something better for this year... hopefully...
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