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You should be aiming at much lower of a cpc. Anything about .05 is too much in adult in my opinion
you should focus on how to write a great ad title than this threads
Originally Posted by adgale
$52 spent, let's start some breakdown:
- $52 spent per banner with 5 creatives: $10.40
- $10.40 spent per creative, you're using 4 LPs (yes, you said 3, but if it's modified, I'd count it as 4): spent per banner & lp combo: $2.60
Bottom line: not enough sample size in my opinion.
An approach I would take: take 5 initial creatives, create 2 variations of them. Ends up with 10 creatives.
Take 2-3 LPs, 2 offers. Run it, see how they do. If a creative totally tanks, stop it and keep the others running. I'd try to spend at least $120-150 with that setup on the first day, just collecting data. Next day, see if an offer is doing better than the other one (most of the time it will), run again with just that offer and the creatives that didn't tank plus the same LPs (unless 1 totally tanked CTR wise, not that much CR) wise in that step for me.
After 2 days and about $250+ spent, you should have some first data to judge on. In best case, you find 2 'templates' of creatives working best with 1 LP. From that on, split test creatives and modifications of the LP.
Quality wise TrafficJunky is pretty premium in my opinion, with pornhub/youporn and their other placements receiving a shitload of organic traffic which is king in any niche. The more known the tube you run on is, the better the quality normally is. You can't even compare 2 placements, they can have totally different demographics (think 1 tube attracts young customers, 1 old visitors, totally different demos for your offer).
ALWAYS look at spent per creative & lp & offer combo. You can spend $1000, if you start with 10 creatives and 5 LPs and 3 offers, it ends up effectively in a spent of $6.67 per LP/offer combo which isn't enough to judge.
Originally Posted by fjk87
I understand what you mean about TJ. I know they have the traffic, but for some reason I simply was unable to get much traffic. I think it was simply the country. for a few of the placements I was talking 50% of the traffic give or take and still not much traffic
went through a VPN, had a look for myself and sure enough, my campaigns were blasting on all the placement and continued until I hit my set frequency cap. I'm more or less just a bit confused on why that is
been a while since my first post so I thought i'd give everyone an update where I am at right now.
got my campaigns all sorted, running and was tracking just fine, although I hit a bit of a snag. moving my prosper202 to a new domain and reinstalling it. after that I will be able to update all my links in TF and be back to up and running again
Cool thanks for the update man, technical stuff sure is annoying but once you have it all sorted keep us updated!
alright well, got everything sorted and i'm happy to say I have some (unskewed) data collected! time for my long overdue update.
this is all the data collected within a few days. i left it running and didn't touch it
spend: $159.61
revenue: $33.75
profit: -125.86
ROI: $-78.90
hmm. not that great. let's break it down
here are the placement group CTR's and average CPC's. on my country's placements, I have them set at lowest bid @ $0.35/CPM
placement 1: CTR: 0.26%, CPC: $0.13
placement 2: CTR: 0.40%, CPC: $0.08
placement 3: CTR: 0.22%, CPC: $0.15
placement 4: CTR: 0.14%, CPC: $0.25
all banners seem to preforming similar to each other with a general ~10% difference in CTR. looking at this at the moment, I think it would be best to drop placement 3 and placement 4 for now. those CPC's are simply just too high to work with at the moment.
alright, let's look at the landing pages:
LP1: 19.80% CTR
LP1.5: 20.65% CTR
LP2: 18.84% CTR
LP3: 15.71% CTR
hmm. nothing exactly promising. all landers have about ~300 clicks each, which I would see as decent data.
one thing that suprises me is there is a major difference in landing page CTR on Trafficforce than on Trafficjunky. when I was running LP1 on TJ, I was seeing an average of about a 40% LP CTR. moving to TF i'm seeing the preformance drop to about half.
as for the offers,
offer 1: $0.13 EPC
offer 2: $0.20 EPC
alright so moving forward..
for me, I can see a few obvious things that would absolutely boost my ROI. as for now, i'm quite happy with my banners, although they are not exactly preforming well on a few placements. at this time I think it might be best to simply pause the 2 placements not doing so great and keep the other 2 running.
the landing page CTR's are quite frankly doing pretty damn horrible which quite surprises me a bit. I will take LP1 and LP3 out of rotation. Like I mentioned before, the massive drop in LP CTR from when I was running them on TJ oppose to TF is quite suprising.
unfortunately for me there is simply not enough data for leads to make any decisions on that side.
the good news is that as for the technical aspect of it, I see no issues which is a big relief. that took me down for quite awhile. so, as of right now, I will pause 2 of those placements, and take 2 of those LP's out of rotation and I should see a major increase in my ROI. for me, im happy with the results so far. hopefully by next week I should be breaking even
btw, I was curious if the holidays have a negative or positive impact on leads? I would assume there would be a increase this time of the year.
sorry for the long overdue update.
Did you rip your LP? Sometimes guys will lose traffic/leads to another affiliate because of it. Just something to look out for
Originally Posted by bravenewworld
hey angry old lady,
They could install some (java-)scripts like:
if the current domain is not my domain then redirect the visitor to my landing page.
Have a lot of success,
SwissFactor
PS: It's always important to check the javascripts in the html document etc.
Yeah, if you are good with code then go through line-by-line every part of your LP (even the CSS can have these links that redirect your traffic to the affiliate who you ripped your LP from). This is a major reason why it is very beneficial to just do the hard work in the beginning and create your own LP's.
Originally Posted by swissfactor
good info though. its pretty common. especially ripping from large affiliates
Update:
so here's a new update.
spend: $160.58
revenue: $45.75
profit: -114.83
hmm, doesn't seem to be much of an improvement since last update. here's a bit of a breakdown
placement 1: CTR: 0.26% CPC $0.13
placement 2: CTR: 0.38% CPC $0.09
not much of a change. looking back at my previous data, obviously placement 1 and placement 2 have by far the highest CTR's and lowest CPC out of the other placements I have paused but are simply not converting for some reason.
now, how have the placements preformed so far? EPC is calculated before lander
PLACEMENT 1:
Spend: 108.94
Revenue: 14.25
EPC: $0.019
PLACEMENT 2:
Spend: $157.75
Revenue: $37.50
EPC: $0.024
PLACEMENT 3:
Spend: $40.48
Revenue: $19.50
EPC: $0.09
PLACEMENT 4:
Spend: $41.48
Revenue: $0
EPC: $0.00
from here it gets pretty darn obvious that placement 1 and placement 2 simply are just not converting, and I am not sure why. interesting to see that placement 3 was converting the best considering it has such a poor CTR, although unfortunately it does not have that much data.
well, not yet breaking even but getting better by the update.
hmm, this gets a little bit tricky at this point. I have run placement 1 and 2 enough that I believe they have decent data, although I would not mind re running placement 3
I am actually quite surprised how poorly my campaigns are running on TF. they just are not converting that well for some reason, and a little bit frustrating.
I wouldnt mind re running placement 3 and see how that performs.
so, moving forward:
-re run placement 3 see how it does. if it continues to look a bit promising, I can re upload some fresh banners to try and boost the CTR a bit, hitting a 0.30% CTR would not be difficult.
-I am going to run a placement on TrafficJunky that has seen some decent promise in the past. I just need to swap out the links
-throw another lander in rotation, see how well it works.
ill run that for a few days without touching it. if all goes well, ill try another placement on TF that I never tried before. who knows, maybe next update I will be breaking even?
How many landers are you running on each of these placements currently?
Also, what's your CTR like from your ads? And how many ads have you tested at this point?
I'd say that the situation isn't looking as bad as you might think. Placement 2 looks like it could have some promise with a stronger lander or stronger ads. And Placement 3 does indeed look like it could be pretty good, although you've got too little data to really tell at this point.
I'd definitely recommend trying out more angles and more placements, too. Affiliate marketing is a numbers game: test lots of stuff to find the gems.
Originally Posted by caurmen
so far I have tested 3 landers, with a modification of one bringing it to 4. since my last update I had 2 rotating and I have 2 more that I am currently testing to try and bring up those lander CTR's. so, so far I have 4 landers in rotation again.
ive tested quite a few banners in the past, and I brought over 5 banners that were preforming quite well over on TJ,
anyway, here are all the stats for my banners on all of the placements I have run on TF. all banners are set at lowest bid @ 0.35/CPM
PLACEMENT 1
• Banner 1: 0.285% CTR, $0.1229 CPM
• Banner 2: 0.268% CTR, $0.1305 CPM
• Banner 3: 0.244% CTR, $0.1437 CPM
• Banner 4: 0.253% CTR, $0.1384 CPM
• Banner 5: 0.291% CTR, $0.1205 CPM
spent: $108.95
return: $14.25
PLACEMENT 2
• Banner 1: 0.400% CTR, $0.0866 CPM
• Banner 2: 0.357% CTR, $0.0981 CPM
• Banner 3: 0.394% CTR, $0.0888 CPM
• Banner 4: 0.420% CTR, $0.0833 CPM
• Banner 5: 0.375% CTR, $0.0933 CPM
spent: $157.76
return: $37.50
PLACEMENT 3
• Banner 1: 0.273% CTR, $0.1281 CPM
• Banner 2: 0.281% CTR, $0.1247 CPM
• Banner 3: 0.171% CTR, $0.2045 CPM
• Banner 4: 0.198% CTR, $0.1768 CPM
• Banner 5: 0.191% CTR, $0.1834 CPM
spent: $39.46
return: $19.50
PLACEMENT 4
• Banner 1: 0.169% CTR, $0.2077 CPM
• Banner 2: 0.123% CTR, $0.2854 CPM
• Banner 3: 0.093% CTR, $0.3748 CPM
• Banner 4: 0.173% CTR, $0.2019 CPM
• Banner 5: 0.156% CTR, $0.2241 CPM
spent: $41.39
return: $0
so, on placement 2 you can see the CTR's are not too bad, but not much of a return. the CTR's on placement 1 and 3 are not that bad, but placement 3 has a decent return on it so I wouldn't mind re running it and gathering more data.
actually, to be honest placement 4 doesnt really have that much data to begin with anyway, I think I might have been a bit to quick on pausing that one there.
Originally Posted by swissfactor
btw, I have never personally actually seen this myself, you wouldn't happen to have any examples you could show me?
EDIT: also one thing I am a bit curious about if anyone can answer. I recently got an email from a Affiliate Manager mentioning that they noticed one of the offers I am running and was wondering if I would like to join and split test the same offer on their network offering i'll admit a decent pay bump.
I had a look at the affiliate network and did a bit of research, and there seems to be no complaints and being quite a large network, but I can't for the life of me figure out how they were able to find out what offers I was running let alone my email address.
seriously boggles my mind.
Hmm - I'd definitely recommend split-testing the offer you're running across several other networks, if you've not done that already. The change in CVR from doing that alone could be enough to put you in profit.
Also, how's your flow from LP to offer? Is there anything that would confuse the visitor, make them think that they're unsafe, or otherwise break the smooth flow through the funnel?
Originally Posted by caurmen
im currently working on setting up a new account with another aff network to split test the offer, see if there are any discrepancies. hopefully not, because the other network has an impressive payout
LP to offer I'm finding quite smooth, seems good to me.
I took your above advice and decided to resume placement 2, but paused ad 2 and 5 which have the lowest CTR's and have introduced 2 more banners.
placement 1: paused
placement 2: running, ad 2 and 5 paused, two more banners introduced
placement 3: running, gathering more data, also 2 more banners introduced.
placement 4: running, gathering more data, and 2 more banners
placement 5: new placement. 5 original banners plus 2 more
placement 6: new placement. 5 original banners plus 2 more
oh yeah, and if I didn't mention it before, 2 more landers bringing the total to 4.
unfortunately I received an email and offer 2 has been paused by the advertiser with no information when it will resume. oh, well.. at least that's a lot less split testing, especially since it had such a high payout resulting in a lot more data needed.
hmm... what else...
ive been running this for a few days now.. a few days more and ill have another update ready for you guys!
Nice work! I'd recommend signing up with a few affiliate networks - the first time you split-test an identical offer across two networks and see a 50% greater CVR on one of them it's a pretty good feeling
Looking forward to seeing the next round of data!
Hey,
It wouldn't be that hard to write such a piece of code. It would be a bit more harder to hide it anywhere... but I would say it's always a trade off between speed of the lander and protection against ripping it. But sure, could be fun to rip landers and then insert your own code and just wait for free traffic
Originally Posted by caurmen
Looking forward to seeing the next round of data!
just out of curiosity, why would you see a larger CVR between different aff networks running the same offer?
anyway, I have a bunch more data to throw at you guys
I ran it for quite a while to get a decent amount of data. gimme an hour or so to go through all of it.
Originally Posted by angry old lady
anyway, I have a bunch more data to throw at you guys
I ran it for quite a while to get a decent amount of data. gimme an hour or so to go through all of it. Originally Posted by kyleirwin
alright, update time!
these are my stats for the past 9 days, I took some advice from this thread that I cannot find right now and simply set my campaigns and let them run. although, in those past 9 days, I didn't seem to have seen much traffic, which suprises me a bit. the minimum bid on trafficforce in the country I am running is $0.35/CPM which to me seems a bit high for how little traffic I have been getting compared to TrafficJunky.
but, here is what you all have been waiting for: my stats. I ran some placements for those 9 days and Introduced some more placements about half way. also 2 more banners and 2 more landing pages that I introduced from my last update
btw, I can see its been a long time since my last update. sorry, I was down for a bit. just another server issue. small problems tend to take me a while to work out.
spend: $251.61
revenue: $123.00
eh, not too bad. then again, I did introduce some new placements and landign pages in the rotation. lets break it down:
PLACEMENT 1:
paused
PLACEMENT 2:
$0 SPENT
strange... no idea why it didn't run at all...
PLACEMENT 3:
spent: $94.3446
revenue: $48.00
ad CTR's:
1. 0.289
2. 0.222
3. 0.207
4. 0.228
5. 0.236
6. 0.279
7. 0.319
overall: 0.254
PLACEMENT 4:
spent: $0.0077
hmm, this one didn't run at all either..
PLACEMENT 5: (new)
spent: $74.04
revenue: 36.00
ad CTR:
1: 0.219
2: 0.121
3: 0.258
4: 0.285
5: 0.296
6: 0.321
7: 0.381
overall: 0.269%
PLACEMENT 6: (new)
spend: $15.0525
revenue: $3.00
(not enough data)
PLACEMENT 7: (new, RON placements)
spend: $16.21
revenue: 15.00
ad CTR:
1. 0.211
2. 0.296
3. 0.244
4. 0.317
5. 0.269
6. 0.270
7. 0.269
PLACEMENT 8: (new)
spend: $0.27
PLACEMENT 9: (new, trafficjunky)
spend: $52.989
revenue: 21.00
alright, so not too too bad. as you can see there are new ads, placements and landing pages in this mix. as I mentioned, all placements on Trafficforce are at minimum bid @ $0.35 CPM. some placements didn't run at all, and some did alright, but I have to admit, the amount of time it took me for another update is beyond too long especially for the amount of money spent on traffic. from here, I am bumping all placements on TF up to $0.45 CPM to make things move much, much faster.
so, moving forward:
1. for every placement, I will drop any ad that is not converting well, or has a CTR less than 0.25% and throw in 2 more banners in the mix. I can see that my CTR's are dropping a bit, which I can expect probably due to banner blindness. ill probably make a variation of them and see how well it performs 
2. direct traffic to a new affiliate network that has offered me an extra ~~20% payout increase and see how well that performs.
I think that would be a good next step forward. if you guys have any suggestions, im all ears
some of those placements have some damn good promise, especially my RON placement. the conversion rate and the CTR's from that one surprised me quite a bit. I'll bump up that bid and make it run much faster to collect more data
new update!
spend: $46.13
revenue: $11.10
about here it doesn't seem to have been much of a change, but I can see a few issues of where some things went wrong, and still looks great!
I am split testing the same offer between 2 networks, the 2nd network I started split testing yesterday, and has a roughly 20% increase in payout.
1. well, first thing is that I can see there seems to be a major click discrepancy between my tracker and Affiliate Network 1 (about 60%). I blame that on my tracker. I have no idea why, but i'm just going to make it a bit more straight forward, make a duplicate of my landing pages and have 1 group separate from the other going to a different affiliate network. not the cleanest method, but the most straight forward. from there I should see no discrepancy
2. although I didn't change much, the conversion rate is quite horrible today. looking at the results form my last update, I was seeing an average of 9.62% conversion rate. today that has dropped to about 3.8% which is consistent between both networks. I havn't changed too too much since the last update. I did drop 3 banners from the 7 I had between all placements that had decent CTR's but simply were not converting well.
if it wasn't for the click discrepancies on affilliate network 1 and the bad conversion day (which does happen) it would have been a really nice day! I am really excited for what tomorrow brings!
so, for tomorrow's update...
1. fix the discrepancy issue (already done)
2. drop 2 landers in my rotation. I have 4 in total, and 2 of the new ones I introduced don't seem to be converting well. they all have a CTR of around 30%, which is quite fair. ill pull them out of rotation and do some work on them, try to bring up the conversion rate
btw, one thing I cannot seem to understand is that a few of my placements just aren't running at all, and I cannot figure out why. I increased the bid and still, nothing
anyway, high hopes for tomorrow!
For the click discrepancies, are you comparing clicks on your tracker that have actually went through the landing page and should have landed on the offer page? Remember affiliate networks only see clicks landing on their offers.
Originally Posted by ffclogin
still worth mentioning it, sometimes I can forget some simple details from being overtired
anyway, I have a next round of data to come in, so stay tuned!
oh yeah, I have a few IP's that have been attempting to get into my server via SSH. they have been going for a while now so....
1. install/configure fail2ban
2. change password to key
3. move SSH to another port, not default 22
I take it it isnt a no directed attack, but looking at my logs its been going o for awhile and now there are quite a few IP's going at it
update time! ill keep this one a bit short
stats for yesterday
spend: $70.27
revenue: $44.40
profit: $-25.87
not too damn bad.... not bad at all!
what I can see is that I accidentally unpaused a few placements that weren't doing too fair. although....
PLACEMENT 7:
spend: $19.65
revenue: $22.20
profit: $2.55
a few other placements were breaking even/similar
small success, but I am damn happy with that. going from a very bad ROI to a nice bit of profit feels reeeeeally good
anyway, so I paused some placements that didnt to do well and kept the good ones rolling. heres what I got for today
spend: $63.19
revenue: 29.60
profit: -33.59
hmm, not pretty. right off the bat I can see that it was simply a bad conversion day. was seeing a 4.6% conversion rate while I generally see it twice as big.
oh well, I am still damn happy with those results. lets see what tomorrow brings. my ad CTR's are not doing too well either, time for a fresh amount of banners and hopefully i'll see a better day tomorrow.
things are starting to come up. lets see if I can hit a $100/day by next month!
BUMP!
its about time I updated this thread. how is everyone doing?
so, just a little recap from my last update. I tried getting that campaign going, and admittedly I was just not able to make things work. I decided I wanted a fresh start, and went for a completely new country. somewhere with a bit cheaper traffic, so I will have more freedom for split testing and mistakes won't hurt that much
if anyone was wondering.. my last campaign I was targeting France
alright, well here are my stats from yesterday. i've been working on this campaign for the past week or so, using CPV labs, new VPS, hell, new everything. my traffic sources are 20% TrafficForce and 80% ExoClick
spend: $67.21
revenue: $107.10
profit: $39.89
ROI: 59.35%
so, not bad hey? I will admit, today I saw a nice conversion rate. here's how my banners are doing on ExoClick running RON:
BANNER 1: 0.79%
BANNER 2: 0.76%
BANNER 3: 0.85%
BANNER 4: 0.68%
BANNER 5: 0.75%
BANNER 6: 0.69%
although my banners on TrafficForce are nowhere near as good, the traffic is much cheaper. but it is a really good area to improve
here's how my landers are doing. both landers 2 and 3 are 100% ripped I ran for a day or so just to gather a bit of data, and to give me an idea of what to expect
there is a much larger improvement for lander CTR's for TrafficForce placements, but here is what I am seeing for ExoClick:
LP2: 21.66%
LP3: 19.70%
LP4: 14.93%
LP6: 15.50%
LP7: 25.91%
landing pages 4, 6, and 7 are my own. and I currently only have LP7 running for both TrafficForce and ExoClick. I really should be having a few in rotation, but I should have one ready by tonight to throw in
so, moving forward:
-throw new banners into rotation for both ExoClick and TrafficForce. TF really needs it bad and I know I can improve the CTR's for the Exo banners.
-new lander to throw in rotation. 25% isnt bad, but I can do better. I need to start doing some research about my country and see if I can come up with a unique angle that works. get some text translated, and throw them up in rotation. not sure how the best way of researching this.. maybe i'll start watching some travel docs about my country and find some info.
switching to a new interface such as CPVlabs, its a bit annoying learning a new interface. for some reason, CPVlabs is reporting more clicks than what Exo is showing. with TF, there are no issues. hmm
anyway, we'll see what next update brings. I'll make a new update when I have soem nice improvements to throw on this campaign. I am really happy for the way things are working out on this one. I think my $100/day is not far away from here
ahh, I can almost see it now...
Yeee good job yo.. Keep it goin! Msg me on skype to bounce a fee ideas
EXCELLENT work - nice one! I agree, I think you'll be seeing $100 a day soon - and more beyond that.
Originally Posted by caurmen
I like this campaign simply because it shows great promise, I am already seeing some green despite some pretty obvious area that need some improvement
Looks good!
Nice angry old lady any updates ?
BTW how are you getting such high banner click through rates on exo what are you doing I cant seem to get my banner click through rates higher then .18 any tips ?
Pretty sure someone ripped my lander and started using it, since I am getting traffic to an offer that I quit sending traffic to. Lol 
Originally Posted by natesundo
Nice Job, what were the big changes that stood out and made you profitable? I have been struggling to get into the green and I'm not sure where I am falling short.
Originally Posted by natesundo
Originally Posted by kenny
also, I havn't made much of a difference this past week as I had to go out of town for a week. got back a few days ago. when I get my funds in Exo flowing again, ill throw down some stats
honestly, if I would have to say the biggest difference I made that has seen much better progress was just starting out from scratch. I was pushing hard to try and make that french campaign work, but I just couldn't do it. I switched to a country that had a much cheaper traffic cost (and also much lower EPC) that would allow me to splite test much easier. there is a lot of traffic flowing through (im hitting around the 2 million impressions/day mark give or take) but a very small EPC. as I am still in the learning stages, I feel that gives me a lot of flexibility to test, and a lot of traffic to get a good amount of data, and a bad lander/placement/ad doesn;t do much damage.
on the downside, I can't see a major opportunity to scale. i'm talking about the $x,xxx days. but its a wonderful start. also VERY low competition, compared to France, where I was last targeting
as for the really good banner CTR's, I would have to give credit to maynzie for this thread:
http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...ighlight=twist
leave no stone unturned. so far with this campaign, i've tried every banner size offered on Exoclick including mobile and as for traffic sources, I have tried ExoClick, TrafficJunky, TrafficForce, Ero-Advertising, and hopefully tomorrow.. Juicyads. I've also been trying to source out other traffic sources for shits. I've also noticed a MAJOR difference between CPM prices between traffic sources.
specifically for my campaign:
Exoclick - MAJOR traffic, and really good CTR's. although very high CPM prices
TrafficForce - average CTR's, decent EPC, very low amount of traffic but a CPC of 1/3rd on average or up to 1/6th compared to ExoClick... go figure, right?!?
lots didnt work out that great, but some I found some nice golden nuggets.
Now I know a lot of people here would advise against running that many traffic sources, as it makes a very complicated campaign and i'm finding difficult to go through data and analyze it; especially with CPVlabs. one thing I find much, much better with prosper202 compared to CPV is analyzing data.
anyway, as for the high CTR's, what I have noticed is that there seems to be a few porn sites that are specifically local to the country I am targeting, that use a odd banner size. but also for some reason so do some other sites that are running in RON that aren't local to the country. I would LOVE to do a direct buy from them
i see the angry old lady, soon becoming a happy young slut with all that money! :P hahaha
lol
bitches love money
I like how this campaign is rolling. its very positive. I assume I won't have much time to work on this campaign while in Thailand, but I have some serious mind numbing layovers that will give me lots of time
Thanks bro... Continue to bang out bro you are doing your thang!!!!
how's everyone doing?
I thought I would share my stats for this weekend so far
14/3/2014
spend: $307.23
return: $461.15
profit: $153.92
now for 15/3/2014
spend: $542.34
return: $993.60
profit: $451.26
aargh! so close! hmm.. well in Canadian Dollars (where I live) that is $500.81 CAD
is that cheating? eh, I suppose not
so, yesterday I had a retty good day. It didn't take too long from my first $100/day to scale that up to almost $500/day. now considering its the weekend, I expect that to drop just a wee bit come the week day. owell.. nothing to complain about!
hmm.. so where do I go from here?
so at this point I seem to have a pretty damn good campaign running. later today, I want to go through all of my data, pick at it with a fine tooth comb, and update this thread with information of how I exactly was able to hit my first $100 and scale that massively within the matter of a week. the most crucial parts of my campaign I should have had daily updates!
as for where I am going to go from here at this point.. I am happy with my campaign performance. I think now it is time to seriously start thinking about securing this campaign before anything else. I will admit, it would be quite easy to steal. and organizing. I realize my tracker is not organized, I have not set them up correctly to properly optimize my stats. hell, I just recently learnt that you can see which specific sites conversions came from through Exoclick's RON. and just a few days ago I finally threw on the postback URL in the aff network instead of manually updating every single subID.
I know, right?!?
but I will admit, I am damn happy with these results, and I think it would not take too much effort to scale this even further to lets say.... $1000/day?!? but first. securing and organizing.
in the meantime, I'll see you all for brunch at Marriot in a few hours!
Congratz man, good job!
That's pretty awesome! I was wondering if you had any insights to share about the Exoclick bidding system when starting out and testing a campaign, like do you try to be the highest bid or do you just set it at something you think you can be profitable at?
Awesome follow along. So happy for you.
Nice man, all while in Thailand during #stmbkk !
Congratulations, man! Well-deserved after your hard work.
Looking forward to hearing about your first $x,xxx day now!
cheers everyone, I appreciate it
I said I would make an update asap and that kind of fell through, whoops.. sorry fellas.
I wanted to explain in detail of exactly what I did to scale so fast in such a short amount of time. it really came down to the fact that I was not analyzing my data correctly. like for example, I was cutting banners and placements based on CTR's. essentially, I pretty much had a winning campaign for some time up to that point, but wasn't able to see that for the fact that I didn't go and pick up a damn calculator. lesson learnt
after my last update, I was still able to continue to have a few more $450 profit days, then it started dying... I started to get greedy and removed the frequency cap. My winning banners were suddenly not converting that well anymore. or maybe it was a mix of banner blindness and hurt my ROI or I was simply having some good conversion days. who knows
anyway, since then, Thailand took a lot out of me and was not able to keep up, plus I had to coem home and move into a new house (lease was up) so my campaigns have gotten a bit neglected, but I have been able to stay in the $100-150/day profit mark which was good
when I was in Thailand, I received a lot of good information about outsourcing (bbrock32's speech was gold) and decided to give a try on finding some graphic designers. and considering I knew I was not able to stay on top, I went on odesk and hired a few graphic designers. started with a simple task, both gave them some good converting banners I was using in the past and asked them both to use the same text and same graphics and make some variations of them. actually, both my graphic designers I hired ended up just making completely new banners due to me not explaining the instructions correctly. 1st graphic designer from India I hired, made some really fucking good cartoons and graphics. 2nd graphic designer took a bit more explaining to tell him what I was looking for but eventually also made some decent banners.
all the banners I tested from the help I hired didnt end up converting too good in the end. oh well.. I think for now I will just stick to making them myself. really, the point in the first place of getting some extra help was to try and stay on top during a time when I was unable to keep up. still worth the shot.
so anyway, here's to a new month. just moved into a new house, got my computer back set up, time to get back at it. at this point, I am going to pound out some serious photoshop time, get some new cratives rolling, try and find something that works. my angle I am running seems to be good, as my conversion rate/EPC has not changed much. but here are my stats for yesterday to give an insight where I am at at the moment:
spend:
$363.81
return:
$484.15
profit:
$120.34
as you can see, my ROI has taken quite the beating. for today, im going to pump out some new banners, keep them in rotation. find something that works well. really, I don;t think it will take much to get back in the $500/day range.
this week I am planning on getting my campaign and try running it in a few other similar countries, see how well that works out.
if that works out, I think its time to give my old arch enemy another chance..... France.
EDIT: oh yeah, so when I was in Thailand for the meetup, after Samui I spent a few days in Koh Phangan as I used to live there. its also where I started with aff marketing
checked the date, I signed up with my first affiliate network, on March 19th, 2013. I was outside of a hotel stealing their wifi.
came back for the Thailand meetup, and snapped this pic on March, 23rd 2014, almost exactly one year later, right where it started. The same hotel I was sitting in front
pretty cool to see the progress i've made since the last time I was there.
anyway, for April i'm hoping to at least keep a steady $500/day profit, which I believe won't be that hard to achieve. top goal, $1000/day by the end of April
Thank for sharing your story.
Did you get back to the 500$ ?
You said you have test the French traffic first, are you french ? what kind of offer have you test on that traffic ?
I will read this whole thread later, but , what kind of offer did you have, a dating type offer? if so, what type and what was the payout per CPA?
Thanks .
Definitely looking forward to another update on this one. Probably one of the best "Follow Alongs" I've found on here so far!
Nice job man!
Great persistence in sticking with it! Next update will be the $xxxx.xx mark.
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