Do we need a private fb subforum? (50)
It's been said there are facebook snitches in the forum, which would make sense considering how much they hate affiliates, so talking about fb strategies openly defeats the purpose.
Should there be a subforum where only verified and trusted members are allowed? People whom many members met in person and can vouch for their integrity for example? Or has fb pretty much already won the war?
You might be better off just doing skype groups this way you have tighter control over who gets access etc.
Algorithm updates and the platform in general? They don't care.
Bidding/campaigns/management? They don't care.
Accounts? They care, but BHW has our number on this and they're stupid enough to give specifics in a truly public forum.
Cloaking? It will never be discussed here in any decent detail.
Anything that could encroach on somebody's earnings won't be shared in meaningful detail (most of the time).
Options for taking this all to the next level:
Private sub-forum: might be good... Like, you have to come to a meet-up and have post count over 100 in the forums.
Skype groups can be nice, but should be tiered IMO. And also criteria as per above. Info is not permanent in a forum for later perusal... which can actually be a blessing.
Skype group bawse level: I would be up for weekly or fortnightly Skype meet-ups. Each person must share one thing per month (or fortnight) that the group would find applicable to earnings or sustenance of business activity on FB. If it's not detailed enough or just made to be passable, they are out of the group. Cloaking, accounts, demos, ads, landers or motivational/stat shit that gives part of the game away or puts people in the frame of mind to smash it (FB-specific and too sensitive for the main forum). It's gotta be good shit. I'm stacked with this stuff (tips, systems, ideas, stats, optimisation hacks etc.) and my bra is bursting at the seams. I can't share in the main forum.
If participants don't have good shit to share, they don't get to listen to others' good shit anymore because they're out of the group. We take the most creative thinkers. Everybody must have had a $100+ profit day, preferably $200-500 or more... You can tone down your good shit if you don't want to fully expose your business (not a good idea obviously) but eventually you will run out of substantial information you can provide, and then you will need to start getting into sensitive stuff in order to keep your place. We all have a scarcity mindset to a certain degree but it needs to go. FB is way too big. There is way too much money.
I'm talking full bidding and micro-management strategies, campaign optimisations, mobile ads/offers/landers, spending $X,XXX a day in a single demo and being profitable in the long-term, cloaking, advanced cloaking setups, avoiding spy tools, 10 accounts, 20 accounts, IPs and credit cards, unique things we've made that have been profitable experiments (gold shit right here). All the juicy shit you just don't talk about on STM due to fear of the "subscribe for 1 month and swipe the forum" people (yes they do this, I've seen swipes for sale/exchange on TheVault) and of course FB spies.
It will take months to share even close to what we know. The point is we're all there once a week to just talk and eventually drop some info. It could be categorical, first week is bidding, second week cloaking etc. and we all leave in awe every time, and we just smash it. Things go in waves anyway, we're not going to say "I'll run in this demo now" but we share about everything and let people take their own paths.
We have something similar at TheVault (the most exclusive business/IM torrent tracker and also a great forum) - via IRC.
Could this even be a reality here? I think it could be.
I have no clue what you are talking about but you seem very passionate about it .. so i am interested
Originally Posted by redrummr
Haha I'll hit you up about this. Please PM me your skype details.
Hit me up for the group idea, i might be game if the quality is high enough
I have found skype groups to be much more beneficial when it comes to FB. I have learned/shared a ton more on skype than we'd ever be able to do here. The biggest problem I've run into with skype groups is that they are either too big, which leads to people not being as open about stuff and often going way off topic. Or, the small ones often become inactive and die off.
If you guys do anything I would definitely be interested.
-Aaron
Highly interested in this type of privatized FB mastermind! I'm all on board for this.
For the reasons Aaron stated above, I'd be incllined towards private subforum.. Dunno if I would qualify, but the Skype groups just end up mad or dead.
If you make a private forum, i'm down. Also I'm interested in skype too.
Skype group would be cool. I'm in.
I'm down as well - got multiple high spend accounts suspended this month
I really think we need to make this happen... Skype group would be great but I feel like a private subforum with a barrier to entry could be even more beneficial in the long run.
I am in
I'm heading back to NZ today. But once I shake off jet lag. I'll plan out something!
I think the key to success in these group settings is to go into it with the right attitude.
If you are worried about only giving so much info, and making sure you get the exact amount of info back in return and who shares what ect. It ends up being a waste.
I have learned an absolute ton of stuff by being open about things damn near 100% and focusing on helping and giving. Abundance mindset vs. Scarcity.
The group can get too big though.
I am in for a FB group/sub-forum
Would be good to help each other learn techniques for pushing stuff other than dating or rebills too.. after fb brings down the hammer this week there will be a flood of affiliates with nothing to push..
This is an interesting idea, but I agree with Aaron on the skype groups, I used to be part of some big ones and they do go way off topic.
If anyone come up with something, I'm game. I run all sort of offers on FB more or less legit (no dating, rebills)
I will open a private sub forum with strict rules regarding experience, activity, and contributions.
Initial thoughts is to have lubk where members can check each others contributions and activity. This should make it easy to keep the quality up.
Great. In terms of quality, in addition to the initial screening of participants, the next most important thing is to make sure that the participants keep each other accountable for the three C's
Contribution
Commitment
Confidentiality
If so, it would be valuable.
I'm def. interested - any idea on what the pre-req's will be to get access to the subforum?
Not familiar with FB at all but how does one be a facebook snitch?
From the other threads I read a member actually referenced specific threads on this forum when trying to get a ad spend bump with a FB rep. This lead to someone or multiple people from FB risk management to register for the forum. I think at least 1 member had his account burned to the ground because of the dots there where able to connect.
The more I think about this, the more I realise the guys who have done 3- or 4-figure profit days don't really need much (in the way of new information). A new sub-forum would bring the most benefit to the beginners... ad-hoc Skype chats are what they are, and that's always the next stage. At a certain point, you don't want to do anything but scale as hard and fast as you can, and the only advice you're really seeking is from your AM, which is roughly where I'm at right now. New info would only get in the way...
I think sharing over a few cold ones in BK and other meet-ups is more beneficial and fun. There's no posterity to drunken spillage of tactics lol...
I think the benefit would be in various technicalities related to account creation, methods of cloaking, changes that FB has made recently, reasons for account banning, etc.. Not necessarily things that beginners would utilize (like offer selection, how to re: basic FB ads, tutorials, etc), but more maintenance methods, etc..
Originally Posted by waltermitty
Hate to bump a thread I have the last post on, but what's the deal with this Private FB subforum/skype group, I still think its essential at this point.
It's a great idea, were looking into how to do it properly. Need a bit of time
in fot it
Another thing to keep in mind. Is even if we opened a subforum. It wouldn't be publicly known. We would have to private message invite people into it.
Any idea on what the criteria would be for getting an invite? Length of registration, Having met certain members in person, vouches... etc etc
if this goes live, I would be interested.
So Mr Green is basically saying it may already be open lol...
How do we gain access to the new private sub forum?
^^ just figuring out how to easily add individuals to the forum.
Once you figured it out, count me in ;-).
and meeeee ....
Same here :-)
I'd like to join.
Me three
Me four ... running a couple successful campaigns, using non standard methods. have some ppl that could vouch for me.
Me six. If you need people who vouch for me,let me know. 
Im interested
I'd like to join also.
may I be in this sub forum..
I'd like to be in as well.
Hmmm...
I literally joined the other day after hearing all the good stuff about STM for FB. Haven't even made an introduction post yet.
However, I didn't realize there was going to be a "private forum" within a private forum after payment. Is there a way for a newbie to join this section?
I have no problem with providing value, verifying my identity, doing secret handshakes with funny hats, whatever. Just don't want to miss out on anything after subscribing.
The mods are testing something at the moment. Currently its hold your horses stage.
Originally Posted by classymonet
i want to join too, i have a lot of fb experience
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