US Proxy Question (17)
If i wanted to create multiple accounts with ad network X, and wanted to keep on making accounts how would I go about getting all these US proxies?
My first thought was to get a VPN service like overplay.net, but they only provide a limited amount of proxies for US, I think around 10 if that. I would need more than that not to mention I'm sure someone already used those proxies before.
I could also use scrapebox and try and collect IP's, however I found most of them very slow and also a lot of them werent from the US.
Third, I could buy proxies from proxy-hub or similiar site and use them, however it would be quite expensive to pay each month.. and as far as I know they give you relatively close IP's based on the subnets which could link the accounts as well right?
Any other thoughts or suggestions on this topic and any proxy supplier suggestions besides proxy-hub?
Thanks!
The usual suggestion - and one that people seem to have success with - is to get some VPSes and run proxy software on them. That way you can have literally hundreds of IPs with a bit of investment.
Here's a tutorial on setting up the necessary software: http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1011438
Amazon AWS appears to work, amazingly.
This isn't a foolproof plan: it's possible to tell if an IP is from a datacenter by using a reverse DNS. However, that appears not to be a technique in common use right now.
Originally Posted by caurmen
Bit confused
Posting so I see any additional responses.
I'm interested in a good proxy solution as well. I'd gladly pay more for a clean reliable solution that gives me IPs in my area. I'm not 100% happy with my current setup.
-Aaron
Ah, sorry, let me re-explain 
I'll start out pretty basic here: you probably know a lot of this already but I just want to be sure that I'm not skipping any steps!
So, the basic issue here is that in order to get multiple accounts with Ad Network X, you need to appear to be multiple different people. One of the simplest ways to check if you're actually the same guy claiming to be Joe, Bob, John AND Dave is to check the IP address of the computer that you're logging in from. If Joe, Bob, John and Dave all seem to be logging in from the same PC - busted.
So, you need a bunch of computers you can route your connection through, so that when you're claiming to be Joe, you can be on one IP, and when you're claiming to be John, you can be on another IP. That's what a proxy does: it's a remote computer with a different IP which takes your Web requests, forwards them to your Ad Network with its own IP, and then forwards the results back to your home computer.
At the most basic level, a proxy is pretty simple: it's just a server like a web server, running some different software - the Squid software, in this case. All a proxy company does is run a bunch of servers with proxy software on them, then charge you for access to them. Obviously, they're trying to make a profit, so they limit the number of servers they run: hence why you only get about 10 IPs from them.
But it's simple enough just to get your own servers and install the same proxy software on them. Since each server has its own IP address, that means you get as many IP addresses as you have servers, and they're all dedicated to you and you alone.
One of the cheapest ways to do this is through Amazon's Web Services (AWS), specifically their EC2 service, which lets you rent very cheap servers. They're slow in some ways, but as a proxy they're pretty much perfect.
You can just rent a bunch of EC2 "instances", as they're called (servers, basically), assign them IP addresses, and then run the Squid software on them. And bingo, you've got a bunch of private, clean proxies.
I could write a tutorial on this if you like - anyone interested?
I would love a tutorial. I am going to try doing it myself now though, also.
I am currently going through and trying to create accounts for something other than Google/FB (so I can't just buy them) and have not done anything like this in the past.
Thanks for all the information so far Caurmen!
+1 for tutorial, would be helpful for me as well! Thanks!
I signed up for AWS to use EC2 and I'm figuring out how to use it, add my +1 for the tutorial as well
How much are you willing to spend a month per IP? As stated above a simple reverse dns check and any non brain dead person will know you are running from a VPS or amazons network. If you want to look like a regular user you need to act like a regular user, price out what mobile broadband services are in your area. Depending on your budget you are looking at anywhere from 15-30/month per connection.
Originally Posted by vidivo
Here's an example of that pulled from my stats…
You see where it says Webnx? That is not a legit ISP, that is a web hosting company (somebody has proxy software installed on a machine from Webnx is Los Angeles, and from the looks of it they are in Indonesia)
I'm pretty sure if you used Amazon, it would say "Amazon AWS" there, which is a dead giveaway to Facebook or Google or whoever that you are accessing their site via a proxy. What you really want is residential IP address, instead of one that says "Amazon" or "WebNX". At least that is my understanding of it.
Or just order couple private US proxies at http://anonymous-proxies.net/ if you don't want to get into the tech details.
Supposing everyone here's trying to access Facebook, or something similar..
In Amazon AWS, you can have as many instances as you want to pay, at least Im running two. These instances you can use as your unique VM or VPS to access Facebook.
Now, regarding your IP. You can get an SSL dedicated proxy online for $10, or around that price monthly. Follow bbrock32's advice!
Once you get the proxy, configure your browser on the Amazon AWS to use that proxy. This way you are using an instance (in Amazon AWS) per each Facebook account, and each instance you can use with a different proxy. Different "machine" per account, different IP per "machine". Also you can buy the IP in the city of your CC, that'd sort things out..
Maybe this is the most primitive way of doing it, but it's been working for me.
Originally Posted by bbrock32
That is my only problem with buying private proxies from sites like that...
The private proxies I have tested from some of these 'proxy' sites are run off of servers in DC's. Same issue if they ever tracert or do a rdns check you are pretty much bagged.
I just bought a few test proxies and VPN's to see if it would work when creating a facebook account... Nope, the moment I hit register on Facebook it asked for me to verify my cell phone. Same with a gmail, couldnt even make one since it was obvious to them that Im using a popular vpn.. or one thats been used before.
I dont think the ISP is such a big issue, the main thing is not to use an IP thats already been used, but I could be wrong
Anyone have another suggestions?
For my personal internet connection I have a router in which I can change the MAC adddress and that will change my IP as well, but I want to run multiple Virtual machines all with different IP's. Is it possible to get 5 routers and somehow connect them together so each one has a different Mac address and IP? Then I would just connect each virtual machine to the designated router I want to use...
@vidivo - was that using a proxy service or a proxy server you'd set up yourself on a hosting box?
Interesting either way - thanks very much for sharing this info!
Internet connection / router: you'd need 5 different internet connections too. Depending on your ISP you could just switch your modem off and on again, which might change your IP, but it'd be a huge hassle to keep doing that.
I know some people have had success using a bunch of mobile phone connections for this sort of thing: pain in the ass but reliable as far as making your connection look legit.
Originally Posted by caurmen
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