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Xhmaster USA Sucks? (12)

11-17-2013 12:05 PM #1 santhej (Member)
Xhmaster USA Sucks?

I have been testing an offer on Xhamster USA[milf] using exoclick...I have been getting clicks to my landing page and offer but conversions are really bad.I cant say that the offer is bad because its featured in F5media.But i am getting very very low coversions. I see many people in this forum commenting Xhamster USA sucks..is there some reason why people tell like this??What are ur opinions on this

11-17-2013 12:50 PM #2 bbrock32 (Administrator)

It's a lot of traffic and very hard to make it profit , especially in the US.

You have to split test banners a lot and also play with bids. In exo , when you bid higher you get earlier impressions which are better quality.

If you bid CPC you get less quality traffic ( if the CPCs are not crazy high to make a great eCPM ).

11-17-2013 01:28 PM #3 godspeed (Member)

Pick smaller niche, milf is too big.

11-17-2013 02:16 PM #4 keepitsimple (Member)

ya xham in general is asking to lose your shirt. Exo is a traffic source where you can easily spend $50 without getting a single lead. Very few sources like that. Also creatives that get a .4 elsewhere get a .03 on exo. The reason is because they have very shady ways of ad delivery. A lot of their traffic comes from other sites that they let show their videos, but when you click to watch, it redirects to the video on xham, so you end up with a user with 3 or 4 browsers open all to the same video, all showing exoclick ads. This is why exo is very frustrating but seems to have so much more volume, because they manipulate it in this way to show more, poorer quality impressions to the same user. Even with frequency cap set, it's a nightmare. I would highly recommend avoiding it if you're just getting started.

11-17-2013 03:19 PM #5 santhej (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by keepitsimple View Post
ya xham in general is asking to lose your shirt. Exo is a traffic source where you can easily spend $50 without getting a single lead. Very few sources like that. Also creatives that get a .4 elsewhere get a .03 on exo. The reason is because they have very shady ways of ad delivery. A lot of their traffic comes from other sites that they let show their videos, but when you click to watch, it redirects to the video on xham, so you end up with a user with 3 or 4 browsers open all to the same video, all showing exoclick ads. This is why exo is very frustrating but seems to have so much more volume, because they manipulate it in this way to show more, poorer quality impressions to the same user. Even with frequency cap set, it's a nightmare. I would highly recommend avoiding it if you're just getting started.
thse problems could be solved if you use cpc right?

11-17-2013 03:20 PM #6 santhej (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by bbrock32 View Post
If you bid CPC you get less quality traffic ( if the CPCs are not crazy high to make a great eCPM ).
Is thise just related to Xhamster or are you telling about Exo as general

11-17-2013 03:39 PM #7 keepitsimple (Member)

primarily to xhamster as it is their flagship site. CPC on exo is tricky as well, as a lot of the placements that you end up getting are ones where the user is tricked into clicking, i.e., pops up over video or obstructing some part of the UI so you get a lot of accidental clicks that are instantly x'ed. I'm sure there must be people out there making money with exo, I definitely recommend trying sites other than xham. The number of domains that consistently advertiser on xham are very few. One of them is their internal who don't need to worry about backing out "profitably"

11-18-2013 12:01 AM #8 maynzie (Moderator)

I definitely wouldn't suggest Xhamster, especially US to anyone starting out

11-18-2013 02:23 AM #9 santhej (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by keepitsimple View Post
primarily to xhamster as it is their flagship site. CPC on exo is tricky as well, as a lot of the placements that you end up getting are ones where the user is tricked into clicking, i.e., pops up over video or obstructing some part of the UI so you get a lot of accidental clicks that are instantly x'ed. I'm sure there must be people out there making money with exo, I definitely recommend trying sites other than xham. The number of domains that consistently advertiser on xham are very few. One of them is their internal who don't need to worry about backing out "profitably"
yes i found that even cpc on xhamster is tricky..because yday i had like 200 clicks on my ad and 0 conversion in xhamster.and some sites which like shemaletube which had no connection with the offer that i am promoting converted well

11-23-2013 06:05 PM #10 theoptimist (Member)

I tried Exoclick for a while and didn't really have a good experience with it, maybe I'll try a few more sites on there before giving up on it though.

11-23-2013 06:16 PM #11 keepitsimple (Member)

when you select cpc, they use accidental click / other shady methods, i.e., they fire your ad onclick event to the player on some of their sites or it pops up mid video, so they're accidental, immediately closed clicks, that's why you can get 200 clicks w/out a lead and the LP ctr is typically lower ~10-20% compared to 50%+ on legit traffic.

11-24-2013 12:40 AM #12 Rosebudd (Member)

Exo is shady as fuck (Not the sites per se but the way they handle their traffic) You have to be REALLY careful because you can blow through your budget in less than a day and make nothing, not even enough to acquire data! I don't see why you'd start with Exo. I just use it when a campaign is very profitable and I want to try it out to scale, but i'm very selective about my sites.

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