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09-23-2013 10:40 PM #1 itsjustbrian (Member)
Chat landing page

Hey guys, anyone have a chat landing page? You know, the ones where you "think" you're chatting with a girl, but the answers are scripted and not real, lol.

Just something really basic, I can figure out my own content and images.

Would appreciate the share, big time


09-23-2013 11:21 PM #2 allthegold (Member)

I'm almost certain this exists somewhere on the forum already. Search around a bit.


09-23-2013 11:24 PM #3 ratalliance (Member)

<------- Original Inventors.

PS. A massive thank you to everyone who borrowed it. We used to make 2k/day off hijacked chat pages

PPS. Brian - you want a specific language?


09-24-2013 12:54 AM #4 thedudeabides (Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by ratalliance View Post
<------- Original Inventors.

PS. A massive thank you to everyone who borrowed it. We used to make 2k/day off hijacked chat pages

PPS. Brian - you want a specific language?
Lol. Did you have any luck with it on mobile? I made up a mobile version to emulate sms texting but it did horribly.

Were people just too lazy to change your affiliate links in the javascript or was it a more sophisticated clickjacking script?


09-24-2013 03:14 AM #5 ratalliance (Member)

yeah all clickJacked..

cool attempt with your lander btw..

1 thing that never changes is CHAT traffic.. it is always there . dudes always want to chat.

I always check the [ chat ] market on adwords..

1 thing you can do is type in a keyword in google.. and then append &gl=<<COUNTRY_CODE >> ( example: &gl=DE &gl=DK &gl=UK &gl=IE )

https://www.google.ca/?gws_rd=cr&ei=...YmDiwL0g4HICw#gl=se&q=chat&safe=off

its a good way to spy on other countries via google real fast..... do this for all sorts of keywords..


09-24-2013 05:26 AM #6 itsjustbrian (Member)

Lol, I'm hoping you'r sending me a "clean" version... but it'd be US/english.


09-24-2013 09:09 PM #7 ratalliance (Member)

Will send you clean stuff. Will get packaged up for you.

btw, if you want a laugh, add a script to record the conversations.


09-24-2013 10:44 PM #8 thedudeabides (Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by ratalliance View Post
Will send you clean stuff. Will get packaged up for you.

btw, if you want a laugh, add a script to record the conversations.
Yeah man the chat logs we're pretty ridiculous.

How sophisticated did you get with the responses? I'm curious to see how you did yours now. The one I modeled mine after had everything sent and retrieved via http request so it couldn't just be ripped and work, but I saw a lot of others with pure javascript. Even though mine bombed it was a good learning experience in making something like that. I'm sure there are other ways you could utilize that style of lander with verticals other than dating, but I haven't tried them yet.

Do you still run chat landers or recommend going that route?


09-25-2013 01:38 AM #9 maynzie (Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by thedudeabides View Post
Lol. Did you have any luck with it on mobile? I made up a mobile version to emulate sms texting but it did horribly.

Were people just too lazy to change your affiliate links in the javascript or was it a more sophisticated clickjacking script?

NO WAY! This could certainly be improved on? this bombed that hard?


09-25-2013 03:43 AM #10 ratalliance (Member)

To answer your first question; yah, we still run chat landers, and at a fair volume still. Actually, still use it as one of our default campaigns when testing new sources. We've been running it since early 2011 I believe, and it still keeps on trekking. We experimented with a bunch of different stuff for responses. Will do a case study on it all - as as a broad angle - it must have done close to 8 figures for us all told. I do recall what really pushed it over the edge was when we started running facebook chat style banners, and then dynamically passing the username and picture to the lander.

Quote Originally Posted by thedudeabides View Post
Yeah man the chat logs we're pretty ridiculous.

How sophisticated did you get with the responses? I'm curious to see how you did yours now. The one I modeled mine after had everything sent and retrieved via http request so it couldn't just be ripped and work, but I saw a lot of others with pure javascript. Even though mine bombed it was a good learning experience in making something like that. I'm sure there are other ways you could utilize that style of lander with verticals other than dating, but I haven't tried them yet.

Do you still run chat landers or recommend going that route?


09-25-2013 07:36 AM #11 thedudeabides (Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by maynzie View Post
NO WAY! This could certainly be improved on? this bombed that hard?
Thanks dude I think it definitely has room for some improvement. The CTR was abysmally low like 1-2% or something like that. Could have been a whole host of things. I didn't really have a good sense of what I was doing back then. For starters I think it could have been improved with a stronger call to action, like a modal message lock after so many messages. Probably had some rendering issues or hiccups as well which I wasn't aware of. It was a first taste at HTML5 mobile app development. I'm kind of itching to remake it now with everything I've learned.

Quote Originally Posted by ratalliance View Post
To answer your first question; yah, we still run chat landers, and at a fair volume still. Actually, still use it as one of our default campaigns when testing new sources. We've been running it since early 2011 I believe, and it still keeps on trekking. We experimented with a bunch of different stuff for responses. Will do a case study on it all - as as a broad angle - it must have done close to 8 figures for us all told. I do recall what really pushed it over the edge was when we started running facebook chat style banners, and then dynamically passing the username and picture to the lander.
Nice I was doing that for a bit chat gifs thinking I was a special snowflake lol, passing an id for each that would dynamically associate with an image and name. Didn't do a Facebook version though, which was dumb on my part. That's really encouraging to hear you were able to do that much volume and it's still working. Looks like I threw in the towel too quick on that one.


09-25-2013 10:41 AM #12 caurmen (Administrator)

btw, if you want a laugh, add a script to record the conversations.
Sounds like this could be pretty valuable market research too!

This is a bit blue-sky, but I wonder about hooking this up to an actual chatbot - something like Eliza . Potential for some really interesting user research there plus some serious user engagement if you got it right.


09-25-2013 07:02 PM #13 ratalliance (Member)

hey caurmen, yah, it's been awhile since been in there but do recall going in to see what guys were saying overall, and then adding in some stuff to counter it. eg. if someone said fuck, bitch, fake, or something, then would add something like "don't be so rude". We did also experiment with different length conversations, personalities (goth, mature, black etc) reasons for time out etc.

You're right though, as a market research tool, spending some time in there it's invaluable...


09-25-2013 09:49 PM #14 Mr Green (Administrator)

If someone runs a lander like this, they better record conversations and post them on STM! That would be hilarious.


09-26-2013 12:59 AM #15 Rosebudd (Member)

does anybody have a chat lander that I could mess around with ?


09-26-2013 02:34 AM #16 ratalliance (Member)

Here we go. This is kind of basic, but does the job. http://www.ratalliance.com/rat_files..._chat_pack.zip

Will get some recording up for everyone's research (& amusement)


09-26-2013 03:10 AM #17 tmcalvin (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by ratalliance View Post
Here we go. This is kind of basic, but does the job. http://www.ratalliance.com/rat_files..._chat_pack.zip

Will get some recording up for everyone's research (& amusement)
sick share, thanks rat!


09-26-2013 03:12 AM #18 machete ()

Quote Originally Posted by ratalliance View Post
Here we go. This is kind of basic, but does the job. http://www.ratalliance.com/rat_files..._chat_pack.zip

Will get some recording up for everyone's research (& amusement)
Thanks, rat! Signed up for your list as well a few days ago. Good shit.


09-26-2013 04:20 AM #19 Rosebudd (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by ratalliance View Post
Here we go. This is kind of basic, but does the job. http://www.ratalliance.com/rat_files..._chat_pack.zip

Will get some recording up for everyone's research (& amusement)
Thanks brother!


09-26-2013 09:02 AM #20 Smaxor (Veteran Member)

How many years ago? I know an affiliate that was doing that to True.com around 8 years ago now.


09-26-2013 09:28 AM #21 thedudeabides (Moderator)

I was heard it said that chat traffic and chat ads don't back out as well for the advertiser. Run into any quality issues along the way?


09-26-2013 06:40 PM #22 JasperP (Member)

Most of the chats weren't that long, but there were some goodies

Code:
Bot: Hi, how are you?   
User: =COMEON= 
Bot: Where are you???  
User: I'm fuckng horny as usaul, dick in my hand. How are you? 
Bot: How old are you?  
User: I'm old, there trees younger than me but my dick is taller and harder than some 
Bot: I'm just curious. =PAUSE= Don't worry... I won't tell anyone  
User: Who the fuck are you going to tell, my priest? 
Bot: Anyway, are you single?  
User: I'm widowed, that means my wife died....1997. 
Bot: Ok. =PAUSE=|What are you looking for?   
User: A slave! Someone to own for a year. 
Bot: Oooh. You're so naughty. I love it. =PAUSE= My roommate isn't home tonight. ;)  
User: So is she into being my slave without your permission, or what, or are you just alone in your empty room? 
Bot: I'm from =CITY= =PAUSE= do you live close enough to pop by?   
User: The question is do you want to come by, noit me, I live in the batcave in midtown hOUSTON, WHERE ARE YOU, ? 
Bot: I am open to pretty much anything right now  =PAUSE=|You want to private message me your email?   
User: no 
Bot: Why not?   
User: I'm Howard Hughes, I don't go outside my guarded compound, they won't let me, but you can come here anytime, as long as they know your coming, 
Bot: Oh.. well whatever. =PAUSE=|My profile is located at: =DISPLAYLINK= =PAUSE= Add me as a friend?   
User: I don't think so, you have to come amd visit me or we'll never meet, I'm guarded 24-7, are you. No. 
Bot: Do you think I'm cute?   
User: Sure if that's your picture..... 
Bot: Would you fuck me?   
User: No, first I would have to eat your pussy for a long time, I haven't had any pussy juice forever, and I would have to get my fill, then I would fuck you, in many different ways. 
Bot: Back in 5 mins, just add me on =SITE= so we can chat more =PAUSE= you got me so wet! I look forward to more, byeee xx ;)   
User: Sorr4y, I have to go back to the videos and cum. You were my first connect though on this, I thought maybe you would come to the batcave and fuck, I was wrong. 
Bot: =AWAY=
Code:
Bot: Hi, how's it going?   
User: =COMEON= 
Bot: Hello!  
User: hey baby 
Bot: How old are you?  
User: old enough 
Bot: I'm just curious. =PAUSE= Don't worry... I won't tell anyone  
User: we should meet up and fuck 
Bot: Anyway, are you single?  
User: yeah baby 
Bot: Oooh baby.. =PAUSE= I think we need to get together =PAUSE=|What are you looking for?   
User: im looking for you baby 
Bot: Oooh. You're so naughty. I love it. =PAUSE= My roommate isn't home tonight. ;)  
User: shall i come round and destroy you ; 
Bot: I'm from =CITY= =PAUSE= do you live close enough to pop by?   
User: yeah baby i just wanna be inside you 
Bot: You should come over =PAUSE= I'm all by myself tonight...my roommate is at her boyfriend's house   
User: where abouts do you live 
Bot: I am open to pretty much anything right now  =PAUSE=|You want to private message me your email?   
User: only if you send me some pics xx 
Bot: My profile is located at: =DISPLAYLINK= =PAUSE= Add me as a friend?   
User: good you 
Bot: Do you think I'm cute?   
User: yeah baby of cause 
Bot: Would you fuck me?   
User: yeah i just wanna be deep inside you 
Bot: Back in 5 mins, just add me on =SITE= so we can chat more =PAUSE= you got me so wet! I look forward to more, byeee xx ;)   
User: finger your self baby 
Bot: =AWAY=
Code:
Bot: Hi, how's it going?   
User: =COMEON= 
Bot: Say something...  
User: yer good im so horny i need to shagg someone can u help me bb? 
Bot: How old are you?  
User: im 32  
Bot: 32? That's a good age =PAUSE= I like a man who's a little bit more experienced  
User: and u 
Bot: I'm 26 in case you're wondering =PAUSE=|Anyway, are you single?   
User: well im on and off with my girlfriend at the mo we ant had sex in 2 weeks im buting for it  
Bot: Ok. =PAUSE=|What are you looking for?   
User: jest a open minded girl so i can live out my deepest fantersys with 
Bot: Oooh. You're so naughty. I love it. =PAUSE= My roommate isn't home tonight. ;)  
User: where do u live would u like me to come around? 
Bot: I'm from =CITY= =PAUSE= do you live close enough to pop by?   
User: yer i live in abergavenny too  
Bot: You should come over =PAUSE= I'm all by myself tonight...my roommate is at her boyfriend's house   
User: is that realy your pic on your profile 
Bot: I am open to pretty much anything right now  =PAUSE=|You want to private message me your email?   
User: zero..severn..five..zero..one...three....nine...three..two.. zero 
Bot: My profile is located at: =DISPLAYLINK= =PAUSE= Add me as a friend?   
User: thats my mo number give us a call 
Bot: Do you think I'm cute?   
User: you look very nice ,, you will look evan better on the end of my rock hard cock 
Bot: Back in 5 mins, just add me on =SITE= so we can chat more =PAUSE= you got me so wet! I look forward to more, byeee xx ;)   
User: hello 
Bot: =AWAY=   
User: where in aber do live 
Bot:    
User: do u do anal  
Bot:

Code:
Bot: Hey, how are you?  
User: =COMEON= 
Bot: Say something...  
User: good and u 
Bot: How old are you?  
User: 55 and u 
Bot: 55? That's a good age =PAUSE= I like a man who's a little bit more experienced  
User: you like mature man 
Bot: I'm 26 in case you're wondering =PAUSE=|So are you single?  
User: you like young 
Bot: Ok. =PAUSE=|So what are you looking for?  
User: yes 
Bot: I'm from =CITY= =PAUSE= do you live close enough to pop by?  
User: ok whereabout in Lonodn 
Bot: You should come over =PAUSE= I'm all by myself tonight...my roommate is at her boyfriend's house  
User: sure 
Bot: I am open to pretty much anything right now  =PAUSE=|You want to private message me your email?  
User: ok 
Bot: My profile is located at: =DISPLAYLINK= =PAUSE= Add me as a friend?  
User: what part of london 
Bot: Do you think I'm cute?  
User: you are 
Bot: Back in 5 mins, just add me on =SITE= so we can chat more =PAUSE= you got me so wet! I look forward to more, byeee xx ;)  
User: nice boobs u have 
Bot: =AWAY=


09-26-2013 06:45 PM #23 itsjustbrian (Member)

Haha, Jasper... HILARIOUS.

Will be testing the chat lander soon.

Would definitely be interested if the quality is good or bad on the leads generated from this.

Thanks for the lander!!!


09-27-2013 10:37 AM #24 caurmen (Administrator)

@ratalliance - would you mind if I post that link to a sample lander in a dedicated thread? Would be good to have it easily accessible as a lot of people would find it useful!


09-27-2013 04:44 PM #25 ratalliance (Member)

Sure, np.


09-27-2013 05:49 PM #26 itsjustbrian (Member)

Since the landers pull dynamic URL data, in order to properly split test, each landing page needs its own campaign doesn't it?


09-27-2013 06:54 PM #27 bbrock32 (Administrator)

Quote Originally Posted by itsjustbrian View Post
Since the landers pull dynamic URL data, in order to properly split test, each landing page needs its own campaign doesn't it?
Yes you would have to set each one as a separate lander and rotate between them.

If you use P202 you could use LP Genius but that's a lot of work...


09-27-2013 08:10 PM #28 thedudeabides (Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by itsjustbrian View Post
Since the landers pull dynamic URL data, in order to properly split test, each landing page needs its own campaign doesn't it?
Not necessarily, you could get by with using the c1-c4 variables/tokens in prosper202/CPVLab as your ids for image, profile name, age etc. If you wanted to test a completely different chat script or design I'd make a separate campaign however.


09-28-2013 03:01 AM #29 machete ()

Jasper, how did you record your chat logs?


09-28-2013 06:07 PM #30 JasperP (Member)

@machete I recorded each conversation in its own text file using php


09-29-2013 01:15 AM #31 stackman (Administrator)

The chat angle for mobile can be GREATLY improved. I don't want to give away my page, but i came up with some really good last year. Think more old school chat room style with the addition of real-time video, rather then fake texting.


09-30-2013 06:18 AM #32 cosmeivan ()

omg Jasper, thos chat logs are hilarious. I always wondered if some dudes ever felt for this chat style landers


09-30-2013 02:05 PM #33 Finch (Moderator)

Haha love the chat logs.

You're a cruel, cruel man for recording them.

I mainly use the chat LPs on pop-under traffic. See them a lot on Juicy Ads too.


11-22-2014 02:15 PM #34 godspeed (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by ratalliance View Post
Here we go. This is kind of basic, but does the job. http://www.ratalliance.com/rat_files..._chat_pack.zip

Will get some recording up for everyone's research (& amusement)
This landers stopped responding couple of days ago, anybody have fix?


11-23-2014 06:19 AM #35 zeno (Administrator)

Quote Originally Posted by godspeed View Post
This landers stopped responding couple of days ago, anybody have fix?
Probably because Maxmind went paid-only on their JS GeoIP service.

My advice: just bite the bullet and pay for GeoIP lookups so that it continues to work.

It should be a minimal cost unless you are running pops.


11-23-2014 12:16 PM #36 godspeed (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by zeno View Post
Probably because Maxmind went paid-only on their JS GeoIP service.

My advice: just bite the bullet and pay for GeoIP lookups so that it continues to work.

It should be a minimal cost unless you are running pops.
Yup, pops. I would pay for Maxmind, but the profit from the campaign is minimal, just to pay bills. Anybody have workaround?


11-24-2014 07:16 AM #37 andyvon (AMC Alumnus)

Quote Originally Posted by godspeed View Post
Yup, pops. I would pay for Maxmind, but the profit from the campaign is minimal, just to pay bills. Anybody have workaround?
If you can run php, this might work: http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...our-Own-Server


11-24-2014 12:16 PM #38 godspeed (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by andyvon View Post
If you can run php, this might work: http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...our-Own-Server
Im reading that, but its like science fiction to me
Ill try and see if anybody from Beyond Hosting can help.


11-24-2014 07:03 PM #39 zeno (Administrator)

I'll put getting a Maxmind JS drop in replacement tutorial done at the top of my threads-to-do list!


11-30-2014 08:18 PM #40 zeno (Administrator)

@godspeed it might be quite simple to fix this as long as you are hosting the page on your server.

1. Install MaxMind GeoIP2 as in this thread - http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...our-Own-Server

... or get someone else to get that done. Once done, we should be able to just remove the MaxMind script and replace the references to geoip_city() with an equivalent.

2. Add the following to top of page:

Code:
<?PHP
require $_SERVER['DOCUMENT_ROOT'].'/vendor/autoload.php';
$ipaddress = $_SERVER["REMOTE_ADDR"];
use \GeoIp2\Database\Reader;
$reader = new Reader($_SERVER['DOCUMENT_ROOT'].'/geolocation/GeoLite2-City.mmdb');
$record = $reader->omni($ipaddress);
var geoip_city = $record->city->name;
if ($record->city->name == ''){
$record->city->name = 'Your City';
}
?>
3. I think the entire geoScript div (<div id="geoScript" style="display:none;">) and all contents can be removed.

4. Search and replace all instances of "geoip_city()" in the page content and replace with "geoip_city"

Haven't tested, give it a shot - seems pretty straightforward since there's no intense map geo-location involved.


12-01-2014 12:31 PM #41 godspeed (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by zeno View Post
@godspeed it might be quite simple to fix this as long as you are hosting the page on your server.

1. Install MaxMind GeoIP2 as in this thread - http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...our-Own-Server

... or get someone else to get that done. Once done, we should be able to just remove the MaxMind script and replace the references to geoip_city() with an equivalent.

2. Add the following to top of page:

Code:
<?PHP
require $_SERVER['DOCUMENT_ROOT'].'/vendor/autoload.php';
$ipaddress = $_SERVER["REMOTE_ADDR"];
use \GeoIp2\Database\Reader;
$reader = new Reader($_SERVER['DOCUMENT_ROOT'].'/geolocation/GeoLite2-City.mmdb');
$record = $reader->omni($ipaddress);
var geoip_city = $record->city->name;
if ($record->city->name == ''){
$record->city->name = 'Your City';
}
?>
3. I think the entire geoScript div (<div id="geoScript" style="display:none;">) and all contents can be removed.

4. Search and replace all instances of "geoip_city()" in the page content and replace with "geoip_city"

Haven't tested, give it a shot - seems pretty straightforward since there's no intense map geo-location involved.
GeoIP is working, but the page is still blank for images and links.


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