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09-05-2013 05:10 PM #1 fatstacks01 (Member)
HELP needed for 1st Ad Creation - Destination URL question.

Hey guys,

So I was going about creating my first ad when I encountered this error on the FB ad platform "You've selected an object that cannot be promoted. Please choose a different object."

Now I understand that this is because the URL I put in as my destination URL contains prosper tracking ID and all, so it's a clear affiliate tracking URL, and that's why FB blocked me from creating an ad around it.

My question is if I go ahead and point it toward www.mydatingsite.com with a double meta refresh going to the affiliate link, won't FB find out and ban my account? And on top of it, since I'm promoting BE2, aren't I supposed to be putting the name of the dating service in my ad text. If I do put BE2 in my ad text and then point the URL to www.mydatingsite.com, won't that raise any flags?

What's the best way for me to put in a destination URL that FB would be cool with, while not violating their guidelines and still being able to get the affiliate ad linked to.

In need of guidance. Forgive the noobness.


09-05-2013 05:55 PM #2 avidnetizen (Member)

I ran into the same problem with my links from PeerFly. What I wound up doing was creating a static html page with an iframe of the affiliate link. Even with the prosper link this works for Facebook.


09-05-2013 05:59 PM #3 avidnetizen (Member)

The html file on your server will look like this:

<html>
<head>
[whatever head stuff you need here, such as title tag, etc.]
</head>
<body>
<iframe src="[your affiliate link]" style="overflow:hidden;height:100%;width:100%" height="100%" width="100%">
<p><a href="[your affiliate link]">Click here! (Your browser does not support iframes)</a></p>
</iframe>
</body>
</html>


09-05-2013 06:18 PM #4 fatstacks01 (Member)

Okay great. Yeah I read a post on iframing affiliate offers by luke from peerfly, but wasn't sure how faceboook would feel about that.

Did you mention the products name in your ad text even though it was pointing to your own site? Or did you just not mention any product name? In my case its a dating offer.


09-05-2013 10:16 PM #5 zeno (Administrator)

Assuming the offer is FB compliant, iFraming is not the greatest way to go. It is more sensible to link to an intermediary redirect file that controls the flow of traffic. This adds little time to the redirect process and you can pass traffic on to any URL afterward, you just need very minimal PHP coding knowledge. The way I typically do it with Facebook is by linking to a file called index.php (e.g. in domain.com/offer/angle/index.php) and having two of them which I swap after approval (rename via FTP), like so:

APPROVAL STAGE:
index.php -> all visitors -> offer URL
indexreal.php -> XX -> Affiliate URL
-> Non/XX -> offer URL

AFTER APPROVAL:
index.php -> renamed indexapp.php
indexreal.php -> renamed index.php

This way you will not get any problems during ad creation because the ad URL sends everything directly to the offer page. Why make things complicated and use archaic iframes...


09-05-2013 10:58 PM #6 fatstacks01 (Member)

Thanks for that. When you say XX and NON/XX are you saying that you're only sending a portion of your traffic to the affiliate URL from FB. Or are you saying that FB visitors see the affiliate URL and non facebook see the offer URL?


09-05-2013 11:15 PM #7 fatstacks01 (Member)

Alright just submitted the ad with your redirect method. Fingers crossed.


09-05-2013 11:19 PM #8 zeno (Administrator)

Quote Originally Posted by fatstacks01 View Post
Thanks for that. When you say XX and NON/XX are you saying that you're only sending a portion of your traffic to the affiliate URL from FB. Or are you saying that FB visitors see the affiliate URL and non facebook see the offer URL?
All users with IP detected as being from XX (using MaxMind database) -> affiliate URL. All others -> offer URL. Avoids reviewers also coming in later and getting bounced to shitty offer walls and retro'ing ads. It may lose a small portion of traffic depending on the country you are targeting as FB isn't perfect, but you can always log this traffic and or monetise as you wish. Better yet use a tracking system like MobAffTracker where you can use rules to do this redirection and still catch all the user data of everyone who doesn't go through the affiliate link - one less hop in the mix.


09-06-2013 07:21 AM #9 archer9 (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by fatstacks01 View Post
I encountered this error on the FB ad platform "You've selected an object that cannot be promoted. Please choose a different object."

Now I understand that this is because the URL I put in as my destination URL contains prosper tracking ID and all, so it's a clear affiliate tracking URL, and that's why FB blocked me from creating an ad around it.

My question is if I go ahead and point it toward www.mydatingsite.com with a double meta refresh going to the affiliate link, won't FB find out and ban my account?
I've been promoting dating offers on FB with the destination URL pointing to my own domain as well (basically the link you get from whichever tracking software you use). Never got the "You've selected an object that cannot be promoted. Please choose a different object" message though. Also never had any ads rejected. Have I just been lucky so far and slipped through the cracks? Do we need to implement the method zeno described to avoid ad rejections/account bans?

I was under the impression that his method was better (but not essential) since it prevents ad reviewers from getting bounced to the wrong places (eg. lousy offer walls). Didn't think FB was outright against any kind of affiliate offers, even the legit ones?!


09-06-2013 10:51 AM #10 caurmen (Administrator)

@archer9 - this will depend on whether your affiliate network does geo-redirects on traffic coming to a offer from outside its target countries. Some networks will just let any global traffic through to the offer, which means FB reviewers don't get redirected and your ad doesn't get disapproved. Other networks will redirect, and that's when FB reviewers get upset.

Zeno's approach is a rather clever hack designed to avoid network redirects, make sure everyone sees the same offer, and thus avoid FB getting its panties in the proverbial bunch.

So, you're correct, but don't underestimate FB's willingness to swing the banhammer over the slightest offence. Personally I would recommend taking great pains to avoid sending FB reviewers to an offer wall.

(At least, that's my understanding - Zeno, please feel free to correct if I've gotten anything wrong there!)


09-06-2013 12:14 PM #11 zeno (Administrator)

Yup, gotta avoid them stupid out-of-geo redirects by aff networks. Frankly, networks should just get rid of them, or at least turn them off across all offers for any affiliate who requests it. Even if they do it's important to have FB ads pointing to a URL that you control - so you can, if unplanned events occur, redirect traffic elsewhere or modify redirection in some way. There are circumstances where you don't need this of course, e.g. suitable tracking system, or if you're direct with an advertiser + using an API client then maybe you won't need to, but that's not the case for most.


09-06-2013 12:17 PM #12 avidnetizen (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by zeno View Post
All users with IP detected as being from XX (using MaxMind database) -> affiliate URL. All others -> offer URL.
Are all the reviewers in one location? And if so, what is that location?


09-07-2013 03:15 AM #13 zeno (Administrator)

No, they can come from lots of places, but most often the US.

FYI almost all US Facebook review clicks that come from new submitted ads and edits have ISP = Facebook, OS = Linux (and Chrome v28) and ISP = Joyent, OS = Windows XP (and IE 8). I use these two conditions in MobAffTracker to filter out virtually all clicks that come from ad submission so they don't mess with the real user data. The OS here suggests that the ads are automatically reviewed via virtual machines, or perhaps reviewers sit there with VMs that automatically load ad links for them.


09-07-2013 03:34 AM #14 archer9 (Member)

Thanks for the clarification, caurmen and zeno.


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