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The biggests Affiliate Marketing MYTHS... busted or still at large! (22)


09-03-2013 07:26 PM #1 stackman (Administrator)
The biggests Affiliate Marketing MYTHS... busted or still at large!

What are some big Affiliate Marketing myths.. whether they've been busted or not?

Here's a recent one..
"Web formatted offers don't work with mobile traffic" -- BUSTED!

I know more than once person who has had successful campaigns using web sized/formatted offers work on Mobile traffic/phones. There's really no secret to it, just takes a lot of testing to find a good one that works.

I've seen web formatted rebills, sweeps and dating work. It's the perfect way to take a unique angle with mobile traffic and have 1000% less competition once you find the golden nugget!


09-03-2013 08:01 PM #2 andyvon (AMC Alumnus)

Good one, but check with your AM first if the advertiser takes mobile leads.

I had an offer recently that I wanted to scale to mobile placements, but my AM told me that it's web only which wasn't mentioned in the offer description.


09-03-2013 11:49 PM #3 stackman (Administrator)

It's usually easy to tell based on the type of offer it is.

ie: Rebills will almost always take mobile traffic, but something like dating (free signups) may have a much worse conversion rate with mobile if it's a web offers.


09-04-2013 12:49 AM #4 allthegold (Member)

Myth: Offer under $2 can't lead to seriously big days.

My first major campaign was doing $1,000+/day with a 400% ROI on a $1.20 payout with Facebook.


09-04-2013 01:17 PM #5 Mr Green (Administrator)

Myth: To do big numbers in affiliate marketing you need to grind all night long, have special tricks, secrets and unique deals.

Myth: If you're starting out, you should stay away from competitive traffic sources and niches.


09-04-2013 06:24 PM #6 bbrock32 (Administrator)

Myth: To make it in AM you need to be technical and know html / css / server administration / tracking etc.


09-04-2013 06:44 PM #7 mscimitar (Member)

Myth: AM is not a job.

Treat it as such, and it'll pay you back for the hard work.


09-05-2013 07:49 PM #8 stackman (Administrator)

I like that last one. It's being proved everyday by the hardest workers!


09-06-2013 12:03 AM #9 caurmen (Administrator)

Myth: stock photography doesn't work for dating - only amateur photography.

Some of my highest-performing dating ads ever, with some pretty absurd CTRs, are stock photography. A little bit of fucking around with the color balance and focus helps to de-professionalise sometimes, but it's not really about amateur vs professional images - just about images that work and images that don't!


09-06-2013 11:47 AM #10 Finch (Moderator)

Quote Originally Posted by caurmen View Post
A little bit of fucking around with the color balance and focus helps to de-professionalise sometimes, but it's not really about amateur vs professional images - just about images that work and images that don't!
Would love to see some pointers on how to de-professionalise stock imagery. I think a lot of affiliates would gobble that up!


09-06-2013 02:40 PM #11 Mr Green (Administrator)

^^ Oh I'm gonna right a thread about it (sorry Caurmen).


09-06-2013 05:08 PM #12 Rosebudd (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by caurmen View Post
Myth: stock photography doesn't work for dating - only amateur photography.

Some of my highest-performing dating ads ever, with some pretty absurd CTRs, are stock photography. A little bit of fucking around with the color balance and focus helps to de-professionalise sometimes, but it's not really about amateur vs professional images - just about images that work and images that don't!
This is very true, one of my best ads were with pro models and i didnt even "deprofessionalise" them, just tested a bunch and found the ones that people clicked on, very simple.


09-06-2013 05:11 PM #13 Rosebudd (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by Finch View Post
Would love to see some pointers on how to de-professionalise stock imagery. I think a lot of affiliates would gobble that up!
An option i sometimes use is just blowing up the white levels, making it look more like an amateur camera flash pop, and bumping saturation to make it look like a teenager edited it. :P


09-06-2013 05:43 PM #14 polarbacon (Moderator)

Myth #1: Mr Green looks good in a beard....

Myth #2: Stackman does NOT have a part time gig.....



(Really....the resemblance is uncanny)

Myth #3: The only way to do really huge numbers is to cloak...


09-06-2013 05:54 PM #15 cataclysm1987 (Member)

Myth: Higher EPCs=higher earnings.

Fact: EPCs are all relative to the cost of the marketing traffic. A .20 epc in credit scores is terrible but gaming with a .20 epc is amazing!!!

Just measure traffiv versus epc to make money...


09-06-2013 08:41 PM #16 stackman (Administrator)

Quote Originally Posted by polarbacon View Post
Myth #1: Mr Green looks good in a beard....

Myth #2: Stackman does NOT have a part time gig.....



(Really....the resemblance is uncanny)

Myth #3: The only way to do really huge numbers is to cloak...
How did you find the only major ad I've done!


09-07-2013 02:18 AM #17 maynzie (Moderator)

Here's a recent one..
"Web formatted offers don't work with mobile traffic" -- BUSTED!
The cats out the bag, this is literally money in pixels. When you split test, throw in a web offer or 2, its really hit or miss but the hits can be absolute bulls**t good for example I've had a wap offer profitable on 50 cent epc, then I threw in a web offer for shits and gigs and it was $1.09epc... ever since then I've always thrown them in the mix.

^

BUT! always make sure you check with your AM to see if it does allow mobile traffic as some companies will not pay for those leads if they find out its mobile traffic


09-07-2013 11:40 AM #18 caurmen (Administrator)

@MrGreen - no worries! Really interested to hear how other people do deprofessionalisation - I suspect we all have our own tips and tricks for it.

(1) wierd tip right now: one of the simplest ways I've found is just to fuck up the framing of the shot. Professional photographers compose their shots professionally - if you just crop it slightly awkwardly and maybe screw around with the aspect ratio a bit, you can move the look from "posed as fuck" to "amateur got a lucky shot" pretty quickly.


09-07-2013 05:02 PM #19 Mr Green (Administrator)

Quote Originally Posted by polarbacon View Post
Myth #1: Mr Green looks good in a beard....

Myth #2: Stackman does NOT have a part time gig.....



(Really....the resemblance is uncanny)

Myth #3: The only way to do really huge numbers is to cloak...
Haha fortunately I'm not trying to look good for your demographic


09-07-2013 09:22 PM #20 Smaxor (Veteran Member)

Quote Originally Posted by stackman View Post
What are some big Affiliate Marketing myths.. whether they've been busted or not?

Here's a recent one..
"Web formatted offers don't work with mobile traffic" -- BUSTED!

I know more than once person who has had successful campaigns using web sized/formatted offers work on Mobile traffic/phones. There's really no secret to it, just takes a lot of testing to find a good one that works.

I've seen web formatted rebills, sweeps and dating work. It's the perfect way to take a unique angle with mobile traffic and have 1000% less competition once you find the golden nugget!
We find with lead gen the web form often performs better then our web formatted.


09-07-2013 09:52 PM #21 Smaxor (Veteran Member)

Myth 1: You can tell on a split test in under 10 days if one network is better then another. Due to cookie build up you have to run a split test for 10-15 days to start to see. If the network is better on day one you're getting fucked on the original network.

Myth 2: Google doesn't like affiliates. They very much have changed their stance on this. Recently have reopened our banned account and given us an agency account as well.


09-08-2013 01:01 AM #22 stackman (Administrator)

Quote Originally Posted by maynzie View Post
The cats out the bag, this is literally money in pixels. When you split test, throw in a web offer or 2, its really hit or miss but the hits can be absolute bulls**t good for example I've had a wap offer profitable on 50 cent epc, then I threw in a web offer for shits and gigs and it was $1.09epc... ever since then I've always thrown them in the mix.

^

BUT! always make sure you check with your AM to see if it does allow mobile traffic as some companies will not pay for those leads if they find out its mobile traffic
I've been doing testing lately trying to find offers in countries/demo's that don't have a lot of mobile offers/competition! testing testing testing


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