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08-16-2013 03:56 PM
#1
fatmach (Member)
Building Self Hosted E-mail Solution
Hey Guys,
Ive been reading a lot, and now it time to take action.
I have decide to go ahead and set up my own self hosted solution.
Although before I take the jump I have a few questions, wondering if some of you can offer some help.
1. I hear great things about Interspire, and im planing on using it to manage all my e-mail campaigns and use its autoresponder features. This will act as my control center, for everything email.
Do you think its a good decision or has something else come out that is worth trying out?
Does it matter where the Interspire solution is being hosted?
2. After reading up on interspire, many seem to be paring to solution with Amazons SES services. I did a quick search on interspire website, and saw the article on how to set up Amazon SES services.
Do you feel that the amazon SES service restrict you from sending more emails faster? If anyone is using SES, do you follow the recommended setting?
3. How many domain names should i start with? What is the benefit of having multiple domain names?
4. Finally If i understood correctly IP's play a big role in inboxing. I have read that people have scrips that rotate the IPs. Is this something I should implement?
08-16-2013 04:29 PM
#2
infoshine (Member)
Here are few more self hosted email marketing software http://www.codefear.com/scripts/best...ting-software/. Its better to send mail through Amazon SES.
08-16-2013 05:04 PM
#3
fatmach (Member)

Originally Posted by
infoshine
Thanks for a good read. Nice to see that interspire is among the 10. As for sending it through Amazons SES, I was one of the cheapest solutions as well.

.. Is amazon taking care of the IP's or is that something I need to take care of on my side with the domains that I register. I always get a little confused on that part of the set up. I know that Amazon will be the smtp providor, when the do the IPs come into play?
08-16-2013 11:51 PM
#4
_mcr_ (Moderator)

Originally Posted by
fatmach
Hey Guys,
Ive been reading a lot, and now it time to take action.
I have decide to go ahead and set up my own self hosted solution.
Although before I take the jump I have a few questions, wondering if some of you can offer some help.
1. I hear great things about Interspire, and im planing on using it to manage all my e-mail campaigns and use its autoresponder features. This will act as my control center, for everything email.
Do you think its a good decision or has something else come out that is worth trying out?
Does it matter where the Interspire solution is being hosted?
2. After reading up on interspire, many seem to be paring to solution with Amazons SES services. I did a quick search on interspire website, and saw the article on how to set up Amazon SES services.
Do you feel that the amazon SES service restrict you from sending more emails faster? If anyone is using SES, do you follow the recommended setting?
3. How many domain names should i start with? What is the benefit of having multiple domain names?
4. Finally If i understood correctly IP's play a big role in inboxing. I have read that people have scrips that rotate the IPs. Is this something I should implement?
First of all, what kind of mailing are you trying to do? Solutions will vary depending on how white hat or black hat or grey hat you mailing is. You have to be honest if you want accurate advice.
1. Interspire is great. I've used a lot of software over the years, and I can tell you it's suitable for beginners all the way to advanced users. It's a bit slow, that's my only gripe. It's extremely cheap for the money, so it's worth investing in.
2. Amazon SES throttles you hard and gradually raises the limit as you prove your rep as a sender. You will get banned quickly if you do anything shady. They price is 10c per thousand, same as SendGrid. SendGrid is more user-friendly, so you should use them instead. I use them myself for a lot of mailing. Also, you should know that you DO NOT need to use any ESP. You can simply set up Interspire on a VPS and use the local mail server. Again, if you spam, you will go down VERY quickly.
3. Start with one. The benefit of multiple domains is having multiple IPs and being able to dodge spam filters a little bit. This is an advanced topic.
4. You need to build up the reputation of your IP (IP warming as it's called) before mail servers can trust you. Having multiple virgin IPs is pointless if they all end up with bad reputation within a few hours. Spam filters can blacklist you faster than you can buy new IPs. It's a losing battle.
So again without knowing exactly what you're trying to do, it's hard to give you more than generic advice. Tell me exactly what you're thinking and I might save you time and effort. If you're thinking about setting up Interspire and getting a CPA email offer and emailing a list of millions of emails that you downloaded from the internet, I can tell you to stop right now and save yourself the trouble. You will fail before you begin.
08-17-2013 05:41 PM
#5
fatmach (Member)
Hey _mcr_,
Thank you so much, for the advice. I really appreciate it.
I own a product called Nitroxin ( A Male Enhancement Supplement). I plan on sending the offer through email to, prospects ppl you hit the second page of the offer and did not buy.
List I built through the call center that receive inbound calls, Also list of people who has purchased a similar product to mine.
I have everyone's IP, expect the ppl from the call center.
Im trying to send an email to get ppl to buy my male enhancement product.
08-18-2013 04:09 AM
#6
_mcr_ (Moderator)

Originally Posted by
fatmach
Hey _mcr_,
Thank you so much, for the advice. I really appreciate it.
I own a product called Nitroxin ( A Male Enhancement Supplement). I plan on sending the offer through email to, prospects ppl you hit the second page of the offer and did not buy.
List I built through the call center that receive inbound calls, Also list of people who has purchased a similar product to mine.
I have everyone's IP, expect the ppl from the call center.
Im trying to send an email to get ppl to buy my male enhancement product.
Male enhancement over email is hard for obvious reasons. You have to use language that will trick the spam filters but people can't feel you are tricking them. How are you obtaining your lists? You said "people who have purchased a similar product to mine"
Are you buying or renting the lists? People have no tolerance for UCE (unsolicited commercial email), you will go down very quickly unless you have an airtight strategy.
Why aren't you promoting your product through affiliates, or through search etc? Who told you to use email, and what exactly do you hope to gain from it?
08-18-2013 04:25 AM
#7
fatmach (Member)
Right the list came from another company of mine that I own that is selling male enhancement creams. And I plan on sending those people hopeing they will try the new male enhancement product.
I'm currently promoting the product through affiliates, most probably know it as the Nitroxin offer.
I was just hopping to start sending some traffic of my own to my own offer, I eventually want to send my own traffic.
Its not that I do not like paying affiliates for there hard work. Although the plan is to learn and grow into an affiliate one day myself.
As for search, we started SEO efforts a couple of months ago, although we need to change some content on the main website because of the BBB.
So that kinda paused a couple of keyworks like "natural male enhancement" from getting ranked.
We are back on track for SEO, and affiliates are starting to send traffic to the new campaign (https://breesnitroxin.com/v7).
I wanted to use email because I feel like its the only source that I have not covered and find it extremely interesting.
I hope to monetize the little list that I already have, and lists that I'm building as well.
08-18-2013 09:01 AM
#8
_mcr_ (Moderator)

Originally Posted by
fatmach
Right the list came from another company of mine that I own that is selling male enhancement creams. And I plan on sending those people hopeing they will try the new male enhancement product.
I'm currently promoting the product through affiliates, most probably know it as the Nitroxin offer.
I was just hopping to start sending some traffic of my own to my own offer, I eventually want to send my own traffic.
Its not that I do not like paying affiliates for there hard work. Although the plan is to learn and grow into an affiliate one day myself.
As for search, we started SEO efforts a couple of months ago, although we need to change some content on the main website because of the BBB.
So that kinda paused a couple of keyworks like "natural male enhancement" from getting ranked.
We are back on track for SEO, and affiliates are starting to send traffic to the new campaign (
https://breesnitroxin.com/v7).
I wanted to use email because I feel like its the only source that I have not covered and find it extremely interesting.
I hope to monetize the little list that I already have, and lists that I'm building as well.
Alright here are more thoughts on email: If you truly collected the emails legitimately and people more or less expect and recognize your brand, you're fine. Send away. However, a lot of people try to get clever with email and boost their lists with rented or scraped emails. Everyone thinks they can scrape emails off the web and get away with it. You can't. You'll probably survive no more than 24 hours.
An email expert can move up and down the spectrum between white and black hat because they know how to stay on top of my sending reputation, where to check for problems, how to fix blacklist issues, when it's time to ditch an IP before it ruins things, which domains to never send to, etc. It's an art, much like a POF expert vs a POF beginner. That said since I am based in the US, I personally never spam. I stay on the right side of the law.
Building a quality list is a long-term investment usually, but with male enhacement it's probably not. People are not going to subscribe to a male enhancement newsletter for years. Your goal is probably to get as much money out of them as fast as possible. I never did male enhancement so you know better than I do.
By the way, some feedback on your site: I was listening to music (your fellow countryman Justin Bieber!) and the sudden female voice startled me. I scrambled to find out what the fuck was happening because you can't even see the video until you scroll down. My first instinct was to close the tab because it made me angry. Others will tell you to split test this, but I personally would move the video where I can see it, and have some kind of countdown that shows a video is about to start. Under normal circumstances I'd probably leave your site and never come back because my first impression was bad.
But I digress. Based on your initial post, I am pretty sure you're trying to be aggressive and do things that are a little greyhat. You better have an email expert on your side if you don't want the word Nitroxin to become flat-out banned.
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