Help Accelerate** Conversions from Day 1 - Follow Along (11)
Hi ya’ll…
I'm Crystopher, you can check out my introduction on the forum here.
I’d like this thread to be an advanced newbie follow along.
While I started preparing some time ago, I’d still consider this to be my second week of testing.
We've been seeing conversions from the first day of testing, which seems good.
Budget: $40/day
Decided upon daily task list for now:
• Test 2 presell pages at a time
• Create 2 – 5 new campaigns everyday
• Create 10 new ad everyday
• Cleanup campaigns
• Scale any winners
Weekly tasks:
• Create 1 new presell page style with 4 variations
• Improve tracking methods / maintain reports
Possessing:
• CPV Labs
• 23 ads to test
• 5 versions of 1 presell design to test
My presell pages were complimented by some more experienced affiliates that I know, which is good because I only have 1 version to test for now.
First report:
I’ve spent $621 so far between CPV Labs and a $600 monthly testing budget, thanks to my silent partner who is funding the deal. In TrafficJunky, I have about $278 left to spend for month of May.
My partner is real understanding and the way I see it, you need to have cash to throw at gathering data. However, maybe a participant of this forum could help when it comes to dissecting our numbers.
We have spent $320 and have earned roughly $68. We’ve had 15 conversions so far.
Is this not a bad start? 
From what I can tell I need to learn more about bidding and scaling… the basics I know but at least I have proven conversions and can set up pages and ads like cake. I’m a graphics designer.
In the initial stages of a campaign, how do you strike a balance between finding what works and optimizing?
Do share what you know!
Your ROI being between negative 300 and 400 is pretty bad and usually for me means to ditch it. I prefer at least -50 roi minimum with conversions ofcourse to give it a try. but you are fighting a losing battle with that campaign. i would try and test different things / angles
Welcome, and good luck with the follow-along! I'll be interested to see how you progress. Looks like you have a good mindset starting out!
How many campaigns have you been splitting that spend between? Are there any obvious winners from those campaigns or your landing pages so far?
I'd also recommend split-testing offers if you aren't doing so already.
Originally Posted by vidivo
Even for a newbie doing a fresh campaign? I was testing 23 different ads. Wouldn't it make more sense to test out the converting ads with my presell pages before I ditch em?
Here's some helpful advice I got (and don't say it's simple because making this simple is the whole goal):
• Stick to one country - so I cut down my 4 campaigns in TrafficJunky (2 different countries) to just 2 campaigns, one country
• Lower bid and gradually increase til you get traffic
• Set daily budgets high and pay attention since I'm just starting out
• Spend no more than 3x total payout per creative - which means track each creative per campaign per day
• Now that I have some data on the ads that converted, I should cut it down to 2 ads for my two campaigns - that way I'm spending more per creative to get more useful data
Personally I don't even bother with a campaign unless it breaks even from the beginning so I would scrap it if I were you.
Traffic Junky is tough to crack for a newbies. Maybe you should surf around and try to find a smaller, better traffic source with fewer competitors?
Originally Posted by cataclysm1987
So here is a great example of what I DO NOT want to happen...
12 days go by without me posting on here. Part of it is because I feel like I'm a little fish in this enormous sea right now, but I only have a chance of getting help on the forum if I actually post.
So I've been liberated from my (not so) part time job... This is a really long story and all you need to know is that I had a quick adjustment period and want to see this as a positive thing. I was working on my own entrepreneurial projects before this happened anyway and sort of got comfortable and side swept there. Good news is now I have more time for my campaigns. *-*
So here I am learning affiliate marketing. As mentioned, I'm a graphics designer with a lot of random experience with internet marketing.
I was just starting to break even the Friday before last.
Here are my only assets:
CPV Labs
$450 in Traffic Junky (and a partner that is willing to hand me some cash. He's invested $1200 just for testing so far. I have to start spending more and getting more results and then I'll get more cash)
an account with Affiliati network
A very quick overview -
So far total spent: $632.339
Total revenue: $184
Yes, terrible I know. But I've only had slight experience with diet offers and are just starting with adult. Also prefer speed over spending to a healthy degree.
I have no educated way of how to deal with this, so I'd like to share my process. Today is the first day that I made campaigns aiming at profits. I feel I have some very solid data now with 2500 views. My highest converting landing page is at 2% and CTR is .45%.
But I'm more interested in getting data now with my tighter knit campaigns. I was testing up to 20 ads at a time, now I'm sticking to 1-3 ads (that have shown conversions) per campaign.
I'm making 3 new campaigns per day and thought it would be a good idea to make two aiming at profits and another for testing plenty of my new ads...
Is this a sound method?
My budget has plenty of room to scale as more results are tracked.
A friend got me a refferal to Affiliati but I noticed that our current main offer has a much higher payout at plenty of places. Applied for affiliAxe but for some bizarre reason I have missed the call from their approval team everyday since Monday (they're in Israel which may explain why they only send an email saying "We called you and you didn't answer without leaving a reliable call back number).
If anyone could assist in getting me an affiliate account that I could use for adult stuff that would be highly appreciated. I'm willing to discuss more of my internet marketing experience with health and information products.
you can message me and I'll help you out.
Actually, for your first $600 spend, I'd say your results aren't too terrible at all! You've clearly got some stuff that's starting to work.
How many different angles are you testing per day? That's going to be a significant factor in how you approach testing.
Originally Posted by caurmen
My daily task list is as follows:
set up 4 new creatives 1 new presells everyday
test 2 presells at a time
●Add 1 or 2 creatives or landing pages to an existing campaign to improve CTR or CR
●Optimize your campaigns by removing targets, creatives and offers that are not profitable
●Practice scaling
The importance of angles is clear, but it may help to incorporate that as a focus to test. Maybe test one new angle everyday?
I'm sure this happens to everyone at first, but what I seem to be having the hardest time with (aside from getting a good Aff account with higher payouts) is finding a balance between bids that are low enough to be profitable but high enough to get good traffic.
Is $4 for JustHookUp way too low to make a profit or is it still worth more tinkering?
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