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How to start with a small budget? (28)

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So I have been doing SEO for awhile, and also PPC for adwords for companies etc with fairly large budgets like 30-40k spend per month. I wanted to get into affililiate marketing myself seeing as all the awesome potential for revenue. I build out a flog for a skin care product / products, but my budget is out of pocket and have $1000 a month max I can spend on ads. Where can I start with such a low budget? I see lots of guys spending thousands a day, not possible for me lol.

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$1k a month is fine for paid as long as you're careful. I think a lot of the guys here that are still in the learning stages, like myself, are in that range. $-25/day might not get you perfect data, but it's absolutely enough to steer you in the right direction.

I have a similar background managing PPC and EDM campaigns in the $30k+/mo range. I've found I'm pretty numb to spending money in this environment; now I have to be especially cautious to set hard caps and not get carried away with big test budgets like I could at my old job. Having the fortitude to lose money just trying shit out is a huge advantage - just know your limits and stay calm.

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Yeah I have no problem losing all my money as long as I can still pay my bills. I am in this to win it, not to make a few extra bones.

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http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...t-to-x-xxx-day!

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You can start on a relatively small budget ($500, I'd say) and focus on one platform. PoF is a great place to get started for affiliates with all their targeting options, I know that Mr. Green has some strong ad building tools for it.

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What about sites like traffic junky?

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don't go for adult when your budget are small, i believe lots of people said that

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What's a small budget friendly niche then?

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id also like to know whats small budget and what works in 2013, im still wading through the massive amounts of info here but everything seems to have become over saturated or doesnt currently work from a noob/small budget perspective. Please advise me and nauthiz616 guys thanks muchly

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facebook or POF or 2nd tier PPC or PPV or pay per text, just don't try mobile and adult, someone said it need more capital to properly optimize a promising campaign

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hey HD thanks for the reply good to know im not the only one getting drunk in amsterdam hehe...btw would you mind if i add you to skype?

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I was planning on doing dating with POF personally.

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Try getting a credit card if you don't have one already. Getting them with multiple banks can help too. Only use credit to scale campaigns that are already profitable though, so you don't drive yourself into bad debt.

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If I was going to start with a small budget I would be going too....

POF. Reason is its very low entry level and it teaches you a lot about targeting/adcopy/images for the lower budgets involved. But my friend stay away from the English language countries, you will waste your budget. Stick to the international options because it is much HIGHER ROI, with lower spends which is perfect for your scenario. After a few months you should have built a decent cashflow and will understand tracking/adcopy and basics of marketing which will certainly give you an ego boost in this game.

From there you should move onto other sources with more potential, ie: adult or mobile.

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Id just like to ask when you say stay away from english lang countries, how do you go about translation of ad copy etc if targeting spanish speaking countries for eg? Ive come from porn paysite production so I understand designing landing pages and tweaking for conversions so im fairly sure ill be able to pick up that process fairly easily. I think where ill fall down will be learning how to interpret the data collected, all of the CT, CTR, EPC etc etc but after today's reading I think I will go with POF and then id like to take up mobile probably mobile/adult as i understand the adult niche back to front. Thanks for your input mate

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You're welcome sir. I would just use fiverr.com or onehourtranslation.com both are pretty cheap and you really don't need a lot of translation done. 5 headlines, 2-3 adcopies will go VERY FAR, its the images that will keep the longevity of the campaigns going for an extended period of time

Yeah on $1000 month it doesn't give you any movement for adult especially now that most margins are quite low, it just requires large buys of media to make up lack of ROI. POF on the other hand you can run 300-500%ROI campaigns in these countries and on minimal spend you're netting the best bang for your buck

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ah onehourtranslation lookss pretty good and thanks for tip you are right regarding pictures which is another reason why i had a leaning towards adult as the pictures will always do a better job. I dont like the new rules on pof although i understand their position completely it makes me wonder if the ad copy will become increasingly important as marketeers have to use vanilla pics that bore the shit outa peeps?

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Hey Maynzie,

Great advice on the international countries, I've been testing some
traffic in Mexico but the traffic seems LOW.

Targeting 18-30 (in 3 brackets) Mexico, Male

and

18-30 (in 3 brackets) Mexico, Female

So, super broad targeting. This is for non dating
and getting CTR of .18+

BUT I'm only getting around 33k imp. per day on
a .3/.4 bid across all campaigns

The offer pays out $14 for a free trial (no credit card)
and I have yet to spend over $8 on ONE campaign across
the last 3 days.

Any tips on other countries that receive a lot
of traffic? Or how to increase traffic in Mexico?

Am thinking of porting this campaign to Brazil,
good idea? (need the offer for BR first tho...)

Cheers,
David

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Awesome maynzie thanks man. Is there anyway I could contact you on skype for a few mins? Also with non english targeting on POF is there enough volume to hit xxx a day profit?

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Absolutely. I've hit xxx a day in Brazil, but definitely not the same volume as US or UK. CTR was a bit higher that most of my US camps, which made up for the lack of volume. If you target too tightly, your volume will take a hit but your ROI will definitely be higher .

For translation I'd put my 2 cents in for Gengo.com, they were around the same cost as onehourtranslation, but the translations "seemed" more accurate, as my Gengo translated banners/LPs usually had a higher CTR. I haven't done any official tests with that theory though. Hope that helps!

~Ian

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Yeah it definitely makes more sense logically to me to go with a less competitive market like another country. But where I am starting is basically 500-1k budget I also need the copy to be legit since I can't read any language but english.

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Ian thanks for that extra resource.

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im in the exact same boat as you mate, its kinda scary to think we have to go straight into foreign language to make best of our limited budgets esp when we dont speak these languages and how our copy will come across when translated as pointed out by Ian.

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I can completely understand the scariness of it all! You just have to be confident in your translation. In addition to the ad-copy you want translated, some human translation sites will allow you to 'explain' the intent or attitude you are try to convey to the audience. This is very important! It allows the human translator some leeway in verbiage used in the translation. This means you'll have a much more powerful translated ad-copy based on what you mean, not what your English ad copy literally says, if that makes sense.

~Ian

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Yeah that's true. Though I did just try google translator and seeing as how
I can speak spanish I can understand about 80% of portuguese if read
slowly and I have to say, it got the point across pretty well, though it
is definitely better to go through a person for translation if you don't
understand it.

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This is a pretty helpful thread, I'm about to take this on myself. I hope you guys post back with what you come up with. Also, I don't know if you've run across it but there's a pretty great post around here by Finch on foreign slang, some real mind bending info in there.

Here's a link http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...-Local-Culture

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Thanks. This definitely helped. FIVERRR and Odesk here I come.

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yeh thats a great thread on slang thanks for that dude

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