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04-25-2013 02:44 AM #1 prospect (AMC Alumnus)
My first steps with PPV

Hi,

I will not explain again who I am and what I've done, if you want to know more about me see my first post: http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...ay-to-0!-quot-)

I just want to repeat that English is not my first language so it takes me a lot of time to write and I'm not sure that everybody will understand! So, let me know if what I say doesn't make sense or you just understand nothing, I will not be insulted, I know you want to help me, I will try to explain better.

All right! I must also repeat that I had some good success with Facebook ads, even a $1,000 a day of net profit but for a reason I don't understand, my account has been banned. So, I'm looking for a new traffic source and I'm following the "40 Day Step by Step Affiliate Marketing Guide". I had to choose between Facebook and PPV and, as you might have guessed, I chose PPV!

As I have a full time job (very full: 9 hours a day), it is difficult for me to launch one new campaign each day but I work on these every evening and the week-end. I really want to achieve my goals and leave that job asap! As it takes me longer to write a report than an English speaking person, I will not write on this forum everyday. So, here is what I have done since a week.

I launched 7 campaigns in various niches:
(I did direct link to the offer for each campaign)

Colgate vs. Crest: Email Submit offer with a $1.20 payout
I did 5 Landing Pages which had an engage rate between 56.99% and 59.99%. The best keyword has been viewed 490 times, the second one 64 times and after it drops to 54, 30, 13… I had 108 clicks, 95 from direct link and 1 conversion.

Car insurances: Zip Submit offer with a $2.75 payout.
I did 5 Landing Pages which had an engage rate between 52.63% and 73.53%. The best keyword has been viewed 155 times, the second one 60 times and after it drops to 11, 10, 2, 1. I had 62 clicks, all from direct link. I had no conversions.

VigRX Plus: Pay Per sale (I know I should stay with Zip Submit offers but I want to give it a try after as I read a post on this forum about a similar product)
I did 2 Landing Pages and 2 campaigns: one in USA and one in Germany. My LP have an engage rate of 68.52% and 88.46% in US and we will forget Germany for now! (A big zero if you want to know!) I received 51 clicks with a 31.03% CTR which is pretty good but… no conversion.

Win a campervan (UK): One page submit with a $1.50 payout
2 Landing Pages with engage rate of 67.49% and 67.98%. Best keywords have had 153, 89, 66 and 48 views, I had a total of 554 views and 158 clicks but most of them from direct link, 148. Each LP have had 203 views and 5 clicks each. No conversion!

Garcinia Cambogia: another PPS offer but it supposed to be THE offer to promote now!
3 LP / 46.81%, 61.54% and 63.89%. 96 views, 4 clicks and guess what?.. No conversion!

MyPCBackup: Lead Gen with a $6.25 payout (should be good on PPV according to my affiliate manager)
It started today and I burned my $5.00 budget in less than one hour! 4 LP / 69.62%, 75.61%, 76.32% and 75.61%. I decide to stop direct link as I don't think the offer landing page will be displayed correctly in the 775 x 400 window and I realized that direct link have more views than landing page even if I change the settings in CPV Lab. I had 7 clicks and no conversion.

To resume, for the 7 campaigns (6 plus the campaign cloned for Germany), I had 1 conversion after a week. So, I don't know if I gave you the right information or if you would like to see screenshots or anything else but it is obvious that I need help!

I want to stick with the guide and continue what I began to do but I must be honest, I am very skeptical as I have already tried a little bit PPV with TrafficVance last yer. I closed my account after I lost about $500 very quickly! Now, I'm with Lead Impact and I don't have more success.

I want to work "by the book" and do what it is explained in the guide but I'm not sure that doing one new campaign each day is a good strategy. I met a successful affilates last month and he sent me an email yesterday and he saids: "I think launching one new campaign per day on PPV is going to spread you too thin unless you are really good at managing a lot of bids and campaigns, so I think it's better to only launch new campaigns once you feel good about the test results from previous campaigns and have either stopped them or are profitable with them.".

O.K. I will not have enough time to start a new campaign tonight and, anyway I think it is a good idea to wait for your advices! So, feel free to reply!

Thanks for reading!


04-25-2013 04:46 AM #2 jimmycpa (Member)

I want to work "by the book" and do what it is explained in the guide but I'm not sure that doing one new campaign each day is a good strategy. I met a successful affilates last month and he sent me an email yesterday and he saids: "I think launching one new campaign per day on PPV is going to spread you too thin unless you are really good at managing a lot of bids and campaigns, so I think it's better to only launch new campaigns once you feel good about the test results from previous campaigns and have either stopped them or are profitable with them.".
I am in the same boat as you, I would love to hear what the mods have to say about the guides relevance in 2013. Kudos on taking your first steps, I hope you can turn a profit before to long! I will be following along with your journey and every other PPV camp on here LOL!


04-25-2013 08:38 AM #3 zealous (Member)

Best of luck buddy.

Every traffic source that has been mentioned on here in guides still has guys pulling down big numbers. It gets a lot easier once you get acquainted with a traffic source, so as long as you keep plugging away at the guide I'm sure you'll eventually learn what it takes to get profitable with PPV.


04-26-2013 11:55 AM #4 prospect (AMC Alumnus)

I may have misunderstood the principle of this forum and especially the principle of the guide for beginners? It is suggested in the guide to create at least one new campaign a day and post a report here everyday. Then, other members will give advice and suggestions to improve your campaign.

Have I misunderstood? Or have I not posted in the right section? Or maybe am I not patient enough?.. I was expecting to have tips and advices in the next 24 hours.

Regarding the update of the day, I just stopped everything! It seems logical to stop when you are in complete darkness!

I'm not asking to have a profitable campaign done for me, I just want to know what direction to take now. So, if someone have any suggestion for the next step, it will be welcomed.

Thanks!

P.S.: I think it's Finch who suggested in a post to do a Joint Venture, he said that instead to invest $100 a day in campaign, do a JV and invest $200 or more will accelerate the process to a positive ROI. I'm thinking about this since awhile and I think that a JV could be good way to learn too. If there is someone interested and serious about this idea, feel free to PM me!


05-02-2013 11:31 AM #5 prospect (AMC Alumnus)

100 views after a week, 3 replies -1 to say "I'm in the same boat as you" -1 from a friend -1 by me! Not exactly the help I was expecting from this forum...

I understood that I should post what I did and I will get the advices from other members. It will take more than 40 days to reach my goals!

But that's OK, I will continue to search, try, fail and try again. Hopefully, I can find some good tips here.


05-03-2013 11:49 PM #6 jimmycpa (Member)

Totally agree with you mate, SHIT HOUSE! $99.00 per month for some outdated information. I tried asking for advice as well, but to no avail. What a load of crap. Get what you can for the month then bugger off to a real forum. $99 for what? To read how a campaign returned this much money in 2011? I came here to share and get help from industry leaders, I aint waiting around for over 1 week to get finally get a reply to my journey thread by some "Guru" only to be told "keep trying, split test, try a different angle"....Shit, $99 per month I can get alot more value investing it else where.

Thats my rant, and its on your thread sorry dude, but I had to get that out!


05-04-2013 02:52 AM #7 zealous (Member)

@Jimmycpa if you don't like it you should leave. Also adding value to the forum and building real relationships on skype is the best way to learn from this forum. Sorry you thought you were going to join swipe and profit.

@Prospect A lot of peeps are in Amsterdam for the meetup right now just so you know.

You've made profitable campaigns before buddy just keep optimizing what's working (if anything is working).

Also I'd suggest a spy tool - for PPV you can use boxofads.com. Look at what's working in the niches that you're interested in. Model and adapt. You have access to Besmir's tools --link up top "Affexpert Tools"-- for testing tons of targets.

So... 1. Pick a niche you are sure people are profiting in, 2. See what's working on spy tool, 3. Get access to the offers you see being promoted presently, 4. Test new ANGLES (not campaigns) and learn from your data, 5. Optimize...

If you keep plugging away you will hit 6. Profit.


05-04-2013 06:20 AM #8 jimmycpa (Member)

That is what i am talking about. You chime in with the old "try another angle, test, keep going" Bah, heard that plenty of times. I aint asking for a handout, I was however expecting some ACTIONABLE advice for a paid forum.

In saying that, who cares if the "peeps" are in Amsterdam, does that mean that we have to wait for them to come back online before we can get any real advice? They should have senior people on here to help contribute on a daily basis.

Again I aint asking for a hand out, just thought the advice would be a bit more than, "pick a niche, see what works, test"


05-04-2013 07:35 AM #9 pain2k (Veteran Member)

@jimmycpa - Stop complaining and take some action. Post a follow along thread and take it from there. You will definitely be guided in the right direction. I checked your posts and have seen nothing to suggest you want to be helped. If you were reading the forum you would've seen the thread about what's working in 2013.

Make a thread, get to work and make some money instead of clogging the board with complaints. You should be working to cover your subscription instead.

As for the OP - Zealous told you what you needed basically. You are running several campaigns instead of 1 campaign from different angles. Say for example you restart with the submits stuff, look into the demo of the brands, stuff they like etc and take it from there to find urls to pop.


05-04-2013 07:39 PM #10 zealous (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by jimmycpa View Post
That is what i am talking about. You chime in with the old "try another angle, test, keep going" Bah, heard that plenty of times. I aint asking for a handout, I was however expecting some ACTIONABLE advice for a paid forum.

In saying that, who cares if the "peeps" are in Amsterdam, does that mean that we have to wait for them to come back online before we can get any real advice? They should have senior people on here to help contribute on a daily basis.

Again I aint asking for a hand out, just thought the advice would be a bit more than, "pick a niche, see what works, test"
Try another angle, test, keep going is actionable advice. If you read my post and implemented exactly what I said, you could profit in any niche on any traffic source that is currently making anybody money. The best actionable advice is "take action." Nobody is going to go out of their way to help you if all you do is troll the forums "not looking for a handout just actionable advice." It's all already here dude.

@Prospect seriously just do exactly what I said above buddy. I was sick of getting my accounts banned on facebook and f5 lost cap on my favorite offer, so I decided to start something new on PPV and did the 5 steps I laid out over the course of last week and already have a brand new profitable camp with room to scale.

It all comes down to testing fearlessly - something will eventually back out (especially when you have a guideline for what is currently working in the marketplace).


05-05-2013 01:44 AM #11 prospect (AMC Alumnus)

OK!.. I think that I will have to start over with the Guide. I understood that I have to try a new offer per day so, in my mind, a new offer = a new campaign but pain2k said "You are running several campaigns instead of 1 campaign from different angles.". Do I have to build a new campaign per day or not? I don't know anymore.

Anyway, I didn't want to complain but I was expecting a little "coaching". I will never ask for a fish, I ask someone to show me fishing. (I hope this one makes sense in English! ;-) ). However, I consider myself as an action taker and sorry if I look impatient but no reply after a week and 100 views is nothing to go fast! But, as I said in my previous post, I will continue to search and try. I've had success and I learned everything by myself, I'm not the one who is still waiting for the other but it is true that if you paid $99 a month for a forum that claim "Get an Account! Community We will give you affiliate marketing campaigns that are working right now!", you can expect to have a lot of great information (and there is a lot) and good advice (there is surely too but, in my case, it doesn't came fast enough).

Anyway, I don't want to do a review of this forum, if I was not glad until now, I would have quitted on April 30 and I'm still here.

As nothing changed about my post, I stopped to visit the forum for few days and I was glad (and surprised) to see new replies.

For now, as I understand almost nothing to PPV campaigns and instead of waiting for some advice, I decided to try something else and, for now, my PPV campaigns are stopped!

I will probably do a new post later and see if I can get some help. Thank you to everyone who took the time to write something, I keep all the positive and I keep going!


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