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03-26-2013 01:59 AM #1 cataclysm1987 (Member)
NSFW Operation Day Job Destruction: My Journey to $200 a day in adult advertising...

I have been in this forum for a month and a half now and still haven't done this, so, HERE GOES!!

Mission Statement: Get to $200 a day in 90 days and quit my job after the summer is over in the Adult Dating niche.



I have come to the conclusion that while I love the people I work with, I will never be an employee no matter how hard I try. It breaks my heart and soul to do what I'm told day in and day out. I need to quit in the next 6 months, but I need to do it right.

To make sure that I quit and never come back, I absolutely need to get myself going on CPA marketing making at least double what I make at my job. I make just under $100 a day at my job, hence the $200 a day goal. That is realistically what I need to quit and not worry about surprise expenses, taxes, or getting booted from offers which is the reality in this business.

Strategy: Swipe and translate offers from more competitive markets into less competitive markets to less competitive markets.

I found an amazing landing page the other day in an American market so I copied it and put it into another language. It had some advanced elements so I had to html it up a bit, but it works amazingly well and the conversions are promising.

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Please note I have modified the original landing page several times, mainly images and angles. You have to. If you want to survive, don't just copy your competitors, copy them and IMPROVE upon them.

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As for the specific URL of the landing page...that's classified information!!!

My Target Market: Horny dudes in the Netherlands. It's no surprise prostitution is legal here...these people are DIIIIRTYYYYY!

My Traffic sources:

Currently I am running ExoClick but I plan on running Trafficjunky, Traffic Factory and Juicy Ads once I have mastered my conversions and got some good cash flow.

I am sticking with Exoclick for now as I want to master this traffic source...plus I can't seem to get Prosper tracking working properly. So dang nebbit I am using Exo Tracking for now!

Tools at My Disposal:

Adult Ad Spy
MyHosting VPS account
Prosper 202 (That I am still getting to work...sigh. I need to upgrade to CPVLab!)
An Exoclick account with $1000 in it (More to come!!!)
Some ghetto ass html skills...

So let's go! I'll post here every day. Don't let me wussy out. I need to stack some money here badly or I'll be day jobbing it for life.

FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION!!!


03-26-2013 02:07 AM #2 cataclysm1987 (Member)

Day 1

I've arrived at the first check point! A profitable campaign!

I've been working on this campaign for about a week now. The first campaign is profitable, the second one is taking a slight loss.

Here is my conversion data with top secret, confidential information removed...

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Sorry folks, have been getting some competition, can't afford to share this data any more!!!

Couple of things...

-First off, campaign 2 is brand new. It is taking a loss but that is to be expected. Actually it is coming quite close to breaking even, which is quite promising, especially considering I already have my eye on several underperforming campaign ads and what not.

-Campaign 1 is great, but does not have the traffic to make max cash. I think I will up the bid and up the impressions, add a few more sites and see what happens...

-I will probably not be running XHamster on this landing page any more. It seems like it majorly underperforms. Quite sad considering how great the traffic quality is. Oh well, bye bye XHamster.

-By tomorrow I should know of at least 2-3 creatives that I will FOR SURE have to knock off of this campaign...and I have plenty to replace them with!

-Also, one thing I learned...in this industry, it's not always boobies and vaginas that convert. My top performing ad is a message pop up box. What a surprise! I think it stands out like CRAZY to have those things. They run really well on Exoclick...

Anyways, that's all for today, will update tomorrow with more conversion data. Bring it on Exoclick!!!


03-27-2013 02:11 AM #3 cataclysm1987 (Member)

Day 2...Am I Profitable?

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Sorry folks, have been getting some competition, can't afford to share this data any more!!!


Okay, so today Adsimilis is showing a total of 23 conversions...but ExoClick is showing 19! WTF MATE!

If I got 23 conversions, that leaves me with around a 20 dollar profit...WEE!!!

If not...well...that leaves me at a 2 dollar loss. Bleh.

Anyways, here is what my campaigns look like:

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Sorry folks, have been getting some competition, can't afford to share this data any more!!!


I decided I'm going to be just a wee bit more discreet about campaign data moving forward so I will not get too far into detail with each campaign!

I will, however, show you some examples of losing ad creatives:

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Sorry folks, have been getting some competition, can't afford to share this data any more!!!


Not sure why this one was a loser! I was so sure that cutie would convert for me. She looks spontaneous, fun and half dressed which is surprising effective on adult sites.

Anyways, I think this one is not converting because it has no relationship to an adult dating site. Sure, it's a girl fucking...so what?

Also, she's too young I think. Younger guys=more flighty, less action oriented, and fewer credit cards. No thank you.

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Sorry folks, have been getting some competition, can't afford to share this data any more!!!


This ad...I think it takes the whole cougar angle to new heights. Some of these ladies are a bit over the top when it comes to the real look. Come on ladies...get to the gym.

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Sorry folks, have been getting some competition, can't afford to share this data any more!!!


Isn't it obvious why this one tanked?

Generic, not animated, colors aren't bright enough...blah. It looks like a blatant attempt at selling instead of being unique, fun or exciting. Whoooo caaaares.

Anyways, here are some observations for today:

-Double check your exoclick tracking people. Run that through Prosper or CPVLab as well to make sure the numbers line up. My Adsimilis is showing way more conversions, which is simultaneously relieving and disturbing. Perhaps I shouldn't trust that almighty Exoclick campaign screen quite so much...

-Eliminate bad creatives ASAP and find other ones to run. No sense in wasting time. Move the traffic and get the angles you need to convert aggressively. Keep moving, keep growing, keep learning, keep profiting...Don't bullshit around or the market will knock you the fuck out.

-Get yourself to 1k a month revenue ASAP with your aff network. Most will offer you a pay bump or better payment terms at this point. My goal is to hit this with my network ASAP. If I can get weekly payments, I can endlessly scale and grow my profits like a mad man.

So, signing off for today. As for my profits...I am pretty sure it is around 20 dollars LOL. But who knows? Maybe I have traffic trickling in from another source I forgot about.

My goals for this coming week are...
-Get 2 to 3 more landing pages/angles
-Scale up to 200-300 dollars per day worth of leads and at least 50-100 dollars per day in profits
-Learn a shitload of stuff in the process.

Feel free to follow along, but don't expect me to drop any major secrets any more. This campaign is too sweet to share all the details with!!! And besides, why compete with me when you can create your own in another market? Way more profits that way.

Til tomorrow, folks...


03-28-2013 03:08 AM #4 cataclysm1987 (Member)

Day 3...Pretty Sure I am profitable!!!

Good news everyone! Today I made 157 dollars in revenue!

...Sadly only $17 of it was profit. LOL.

Anyways here are some stats for y'all...


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Sorry folks, have been getting some competition, can't afford to share this data any more!!!


Not bad, right?

Campaign 2 has the most volume but is the least profitable, sadly. Campaigns 1 and 3 are safely well enough optimized that I feel I could walk away from them for a while and still have the cash roll in.

This weekend, after I get paid at work, I am going to set up a few more campaigns with specific niche angles like BBWs, cougars, ugly girls etc, some sort of rich angle that I can work a bit into an English speaking market as another set up.

Anyways, here are some things I've learned:

-DON'T always advertise on XHamster. Just because it's the biggest does not mean it's the best. I wish it were true for me because that would mean mucho money if I could run ads there but sadly they do not profit for me at all :-(

-Run ads that are surprising. Everyone expects the BJ or the big tits. No one expects the pop up message box or the ugly cougar. Careful though, FB themed message boxes are not allowed on ExoClick...

-Eliminate ads quickly when they are not converting. It's pretty simple actually.

Anyways, I'll have 2-3 more campaigns rolling by this weekend hopefully. Looking forward to it...

My money forecast for tomorrow...WAY more profits!!!


03-28-2013 07:23 AM #5 h0mp (Member)

We wanted to watch tennis on SportLemmon when we got a message from Britt


03-28-2013 07:39 AM #6 sandyone (Member)

Congrats cataclysm1987 !

That was quick mastery on your part.

Thanks for the sharing and thew tips.


03-28-2013 12:15 PM #7 redrummr (Member)

Best of luck mate. Link to video of half-dressed girl please... for further ad creation purposes.


03-28-2013 04:26 PM #8 dusklife (Member)

Just FYI:

Some of your losing creatives are not actually losing creatives.

The reason they aren't making you money is because they have been burnt out - this is why ripping doesn't always give you the best data.

I make this post only to alert you to the fact that some of your inferences may not actually be sound. Remember, burnout is a massive factor.


03-30-2013 03:46 AM #9 cataclysm1987 (Member)

I thought this, but then again, my best performing ad creatives right now are "burnt out" and some of my worst performing ones are ones I made myself :-(

I am not sure what to make of all this data!


03-30-2013 03:51 AM #10 cataclysm1987 (Member)

Day4/5 Profit and Loss and OMG tracking...

So I decided to put my campaigns on pause today because they took a loss of $15. :-(

Anyways, I think the holiday weekend is messing up people's needs to sit in front of their computers fapping and clicking on my stuff. How dare they??

I did realize one very important thing...

EXOCLICK AND PROSPER DO NOT ALWAYS PLAY NICELY TOGETHER.

That's right people. My exoclick tracking went down yesterday morning and did not come back up again until I had the whole thing fixed. And by fixed, I mean I removed the prosper tracking.

Yeah, that made it work again.

That sucks, because I would love to be able to use both.

Anyways, here is my summary for the past two days: Made around 30 dollars profit Thursday and a 15 dollar loss on Friday, overall in the green still but very frustrated and hungry for more.

I will get cracking on more campaign ideas this weekend, perhaps have a new secret traffic source in the works

Anyways, for now the campaigns are paused. I am convinced these horrid conversions are the result of the holiday weekend. Until it passes I am not committing precious dollars to it.

Will update again tomorrow, or whenever I add something to these campaigns...


04-02-2013 12:52 AM #11 cataclysm1987 (Member)

Day 6 and 7. The struggle wages on...

I decided to pause my campaigns over the weekend. With the holidays I noticed a break even pattern emerging, so I killed them.

I also cleaned out 2 unprofitable campaigns after the weekend that were similar variations on a main campaign. I'm finding it hard to compete with myself when my lander is basically the same all around :-(.

So here are some things I tried:

1. Two new landers! One of these I found from a competitor, another I found and translated into Dutch and added some buttons and image variations. Should be a strong performer as it appears to be doing decently well in a tougher market than this...America! Sadly, conversions appear disappointing at first glance...will keep trying!

2. Direct linking a big penis offer. Got 200 clicks and no conversions so I'll pass. I am not going to test all day for nothing especially when their supposed average conversion rate is 1/72 clicks. Sad because I see people direct linking this offer. Must be saturated? I dunno. Big penises never go out of demand...right?

3. Took a 3 dollar loss today and got some good training in. I realized something...my most profitable traffic source by far is not Exoclick. It's ZeroPark. Again, I CANNOT share landing page information on this because I tried to find a good lander for ZeroPark for a while and this one took the cake! If I release this someone will grab my spot and right now I am the top bidder, and it's good to be number one. I am going to try it with some other markets, haven't had as much luck with France or Germany...maybe Sweden? We shall see tomorrow!

Some things I'm learning:

-It's HARD to compete with yourself. I'm starting to think I am better off simply branching into new markets than trying to saturate one I'm already in. Every person that promotes within my area of the market is drowning out the profits even more so, and that includes me. In some markets, particularly small ones, your choices are 1 super profitable campaign or 4 or 5 meh profitable ones. The only way to know what's best is to run the numbers. For me, I'm killing my duplicate campaigns and branching out to other nations for better profits.

-As crazy as this sounds, I'm honestly considering TrafficHolder. Why the hell not? If I can get a campaign to convert of of ZeroPark which is extremely similar to that style of traffic, why not TrafficHolder, which is much larger and better established? If that converts well, I will explode my accounts with money for these landing pages and probably have to upgrade my hosting...LOL.

I will try all of these things tonight. Has been a rough past few days. Mom is in the hospital with cancer and ran into some Chemo complications so I called her and am visiting her tomorrow. Spent some time with friends and family to cope with the shock and difficult of the whole ordeal. I am amazed I found any time at all to focus on the campaigns, but the market doesn't wait up for your life to sort out, so neither will I.

Will have more profits and fewer losses to report tomorrow. I swear I am close to a breakthrough here...Til then!


04-02-2013 01:08 AM #12 maynzie (Moderator)

Some of your losing creatives are not actually losing creatives.
GOLLLLDEENNNNN!

So I decided to put my campaigns on pause today because they took a loss of $15. :-(
You're learning, you're being educated its not a loss my friend Its only $15 in the long run of thousands of dollars don't be be that you're making progress.

Looking forward to your success my man, best of luck will watch over this thread


04-02-2013 01:09 AM #13 maynzie (Moderator)

2. Direct linking a big penis offer. Got 200 clicks and no conversions so I'll pass. I am not going to test all day for nothing especially when their supposed average conversion rate is 1/72 clicks. Sad because I see people direct linking this offer. Must be saturated? I dunno. Big penises never go out of demand...right?
200 clicks direct link to a rebill, if it pays $30 and you get 1 conversion thats still a 15epc which is not bad for direct linking at all man. You're best of running a lander but that campaign is far from dead


04-02-2013 01:30 AM #14 cataclysm1987 (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by maynzie View Post
GOLLLLDEENNNNN!



You're learning, you're being educated its not a loss my friend Its only $15 in the long run of thousands of dollars don't be be that you're making progress.

Looking forward to your success my man, best of luck will watch over this thread
Something like that! I always look at it as free data if I get no profits from a campaign. I am at least learning what converts and making some movement in the markets. I need a success right now very badly and am willing to do whatever it takes to get there even though I am limited on my resources.


Quote Originally Posted by maynzie View Post
200 clicks direct link to a rebill, if it pays $30 and you get 1 conversion thats still a 15epc which is not bad for direct linking at all man. You're best of running a lander but that campaign is far from dead
I agree, but I always test these sorts of offers with direct linking first. If it converted at all within 200-300 clicks, I would let it run, optimize it, and put some money into a landing page for a real campaign with a strong presell.

Maybe I still will? Who knows. I'd need a good marketer who is fluent in Dutch or Swedish to help me with some ad copy. Any volunteers?


04-02-2013 01:38 AM #15 sandyone (Member)

One Hour Translation and maybe 3 or 4 dollars will do it.


04-03-2013 01:49 AM #16 cataclysm1987 (Member)

Day 8...Got creamed today...

I'll be honest, today I had only 3 conversions. I lost around 40 dollars.

Fuck.

I don't know why the hell this happened. Look at the drop in my EPC.

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Sorry folks, have been getting some competition, can't afford to share this data any more!!!


My only thought is this: I changed my tracking to CPV lab right before this occurred so my link went from /domain/offer.php to trackingdomain.com/base2.php.

Could that have created a MASSIVE 66 percent reduction in EPC?

I don't know. I sure am fucking angry though. I thought I could rely on that stream of money and suddenly it dries up.

We'll see if the fountain is a bit more generous tomorrow. Gonna create another campaign or two to test out tonight and then get to bed. What a day...


04-03-2013 02:03 AM #17 sandyone (Member)

cataclysm1987

Is that a CPVlab report?


04-03-2013 02:09 AM #18 keepitsimple (Member)

looks like adsim interface, not cpvlab


04-03-2013 10:49 AM #19 caurmen (Administrator)

Check your redirect speeds with CPVLab. A massive slowdown COULD cause an EPC drop like that.

It's also worth checking your funnel with a few browsers - if your funnel's started breaking for a chunk of your potential audience, that'd also do it.

Much sympathy. I HATE it when a promising campaign suddenly falls off a cliff for no reason.


04-06-2013 01:10 AM #20 cataclysm1987 (Member)

Days 9 - 11... Back in the green!

Hey all, here are some stats for joo.

Ad Spend: 101.10
Revenue: 130.48
Profits: 29.38

Not much money right now, but I am at about 30% profit margin. I thought this campaign would be performing better by now but meh.ot much money right now, but I am at about 30% profit margin. I thought this campaign would be performing better by now but meh.

Also, I have decided that I am pausing these campaigns on Mon Tues. I think that was the cause on my low conversions before, unless I run some sort of contrarian angle for those days like...Thank God it's Monday! These girls are too busy for a boyfriend, which is why they wanna fuck you NOW!

So yeah, not much to say here. I am having trouble scaling. Want to run 10 campaigns as well as this one but all the campaigns I try are not this good. Any suggestions?

I am considering doing a long term media buy at a discounted CPM from Traffic Haus instead of doing these constant bidding wars for better profits. Feedback is much appreciated.o yeah, not much to say here. I am having trouble scaling. Want to run 10 campaigns as well as this one but all the campaigns I try are not this good. Any suggestions?


04-06-2013 03:03 AM #21 sandyone (Member)

A 30% ROI and you get to learn a new trade!

Congrats Cataclysm !


04-07-2013 01:29 PM #22 kabouter (Member)

Looking good Cataclysm! Still targeting only the Netherlands?


04-08-2013 03:48 AM #23 cataclysm1987 (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by kabouter View Post
Looking good Cataclysm! Still targeting only the Netherlands?
No, I have some cash money left over in a POF account I'm using to target US and AU for a campaign...


04-08-2013 03:57 AM #24 cataclysm1987 (Member)

Days 12-13...HOLY PROFIT MARGINS BATMAN

Stats for today:
Spent: 48.22
Revenue: 97.92
Profit: 49.70

Holy crap. Almost 50 dollars profit today. This niche is really popping on the weekends!

Here are some things I'm noticing...

-It is no good to compete against myself. Originally I had 3 campaigns and they were all semi profitable. Now I just have one and it's SUPER PROFITABLE. I think that's the better way to go, overall.

-Instead of sticking to the NL, I'm going to expand out to Sweden, France, Norway and other countries in need of a quick lay. I would rather enter new markets than saturate old ones. I think it is more promising.

-I have some $$ left over in a POF account and my manager told me at Adsimilis that Senior People Meet is super hot right now...so I'm running it on POF! And A few others with AMAZING payouts. I am excited. I've been reading Finch's premium posts on POF and I am ready to crack open a mothafucking can of affiliate whoop ass on deez markets.

My earnings today and yesterday get me excited for even more earnings and sad that I gotta go to work tomorrow. Fuck work.

I will quit the day job eventually. By the end of this thread I will make enough $$ that I won't have to worry about it any more.

Keep following along. I'll keep inspiring y'all.


04-08-2013 04:27 AM #25 sandyone (Member)

Most excellent dude!

Great news!


04-08-2013 06:15 AM #26 frgmnts (Member)

good job! keep it up


04-08-2013 10:54 AM #27 caurmen (Administrator)

Great stuff, dude. Looking forward to future updates!


04-13-2013 04:02 AM #28 cataclysm1987 (Member)

Days 14-19...Profits are dwindling :-(

Here is my week in review. I am beginning to think my campaigns are dying out:

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Sorry folks, have been getting some competition, can't afford to share this data any more!!!


After all is said and done, only around $42 of this is profit. Blaaaah!

Anyways, the weekend is here so we should see some interesting movement.

Here are some things I'm noticing:

-My ads are decaying. I need fresh ones. I am so god damn busy I hardly have time. Fuck work. I fucking hate work. I fucking hate my god damn fucking alarm clock. Fucking shit fuck shit fuck shit fuck shit fuck shit fuck shit fuck.

I am drunk. That felt good.

Anyways, I need fresh ads. I made a fresh new lander last night. It's so sexy. I am split testing it with my current lander.

-I spent 354 dollars on a media buy through Media Reps LLC. It's on a naughty site, 685k impressions a day at .07 CPM for 2 weeks. I am testing the traffic...looks like it will not be profitable. :-(

-A POF ad converted. Actually 2 of them converted. What the hell? Thanks Finch.

Anyways, I am going to diversify my traffic here on out. Few more landers and a little bit of FB traffic and POf traffic because apparently Love Again on AU has an 11.20 pay out and actually converts, quite well. Holy balls.

What a blah week. Let's get drunk. Fuck. Fuck fuk fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck.

Fuck.


04-14-2013 12:22 AM #29 cataclysm1987 (Member)

Sorry about that last post...tomorrow will be better and it has been a stressful week!

Quick update, I am going to schedule some PTO from my job to focus on internet marketing and make sure this thread is a success...


04-15-2013 03:40 AM #30 cataclysm1987 (Member)

Day 20-21...Back in the money!

It's Sunday here, or the very end of it anyways...

Here is what the Adsimilis looks like:

Ad spend: 63.96
Revenue: 108.80
Profit: 44.84

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Sorry folks, have been getting some competition, can't afford to share this data any more!!!


How about that, huh?

Anyways, here are some things I'm working on...

-MORE MARKETS! I feel like I've saturated the Netherlands, at least on ExoClick. Time to move into France, Sweden, and...GASP! The USA!!?!?! Yes, it's time. This affiliate marketer is getting ready to ship into a REAL MARKET! Bring it on US traffic!

There's a hot offer on Adsimilis converting really well in the US. I won't tell you what it is, but if you're a member and you're paying attention to the adult dating market...you know!

-My media buy with media reps is going decently well, although it's uncertain it will make a profit at the end of the day. It did today, but today is a Sunday for goodness sake. So who knows. I will talk to my rep and see if either A. we can get the price lowered down and keep buying so I can make a fair profit or B. I can switch to a different traffic source.

-I am split testing like crazy! I have found that surprisingly enough a generic but well optimized landing page can often outperform a simple and direct LP if it has good questions or a good layout or, if you are sweet like me, uses Google maps API to show sexy bitches in yo area. Lol.

Anyways, I get my FIRST ADSIMILIS WIRE TRANSFER TOMORROW! Gonna be about 1400 bucks and it's going STRAIGHT BACK INTO MY CAMPAIGNS!

I'll let you guys know how it goes. Back to the drudgery of the day job tomorrow but I'll be scheduling some time off for some internet marketing very soon so I can focus on this 100%.

Stay tuned!


05-24-2013 01:23 AM #31 cataclysm1987 (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by pain2k View Post
Yeah should always keep that stuff secret cataclysm...No idea why u did that in the first place. Anyways, keep hitting it. Plugrush traffic normally doesn't back out or causes incentive complaints from advertisers. FYI!
I have not been bumped off any offers but have been told the ROI is a bit low. I'm going to play with it as much as I can and master it to $200 a day, then use better quality traffic to raise my caps and payouts to make even more.

Best thing is to filter via a landing page. The more steps, the fewer bots and fake sign ups.


05-24-2013 04:22 AM #32 tmcalvin (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by cataclysm1987 View Post
That's what $100 of profit in a day looks like.
That's awesome! Congrats man. You've seemed to be more upbeat recently in your posts. Wondering which is a result of which.


05-24-2013 10:46 AM #33 caurmen (Administrator)

The more steps, the fewer bots and fake sign ups.
Hmm, interesting - do people find that bot traffic getting to the offer page is a serious issue?

If so, would you be interested in some tips for killing bot traffic before it gets to your offer? It's similar to blogspam-fighting, so there are a whole bunch of useful techniques you could/can deploy.


05-25-2013 03:13 AM #34 cataclysm1987 (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by caurmen View Post
Hmm, interesting - do people find that bot traffic getting to the offer page is a serious issue?

If so, would you be interested in some tips for killing bot traffic before it gets to your offer? It's similar to blogspam-fighting, so there are a whole bunch of useful techniques you could/can deploy.
Do tell.

This is a single opt in offer so bot traffic is a big deal I would guess.


05-25-2013 04:37 AM #35 cataclysm1987 (Member)

Day 60...RECORD PROFITS!!!



Spend: $91
Revenue: $275
Profit: $184

Hey all, couple quick things.

First off, I have removed a ton of information from this thread. You'll notice a lot of missing images, conversion data, countries, etc...

No offense, but at the volume I'm running now, I just can't afford to share any of this information at all. Unless you want to pay me $500 for private coaching, forget it!

There are some lessons in affiliate marketing you have to learn the hard way. I learned. I'm over it. Let's move forward, shall we?

Okay, now that that's out of the way...

HHHOOOOLY SHITTTT I'M $16 AWAY FROM MY GOAL!!!!!!

Here is how I did this:

-Eliminated campaigns that were frustrating and not converting well. I tried, couldn't get em, got rid of em. I'll leave it to your imagination to figure out what those campaigns are.
-Duplicated effective campaigns and threw them into other markets and countries.
-Scaled up bids on good campaigns so I am in one of the top spots
-Took my highest clicked images from my campaigns and put them onto my landing pages. Seeing the image twice has apparently increased conversions, just as I expected.

I am so ready to be at the next level as an affiliate.

I may also have found a guy on ODesk who did affiliate marketing and can design good adult landing pages for $400 with multiple image sets. If so, this would be my go to guy.

Main traffic sources right now are Plug Rush and Exo. Both are going good.

I predict my $200 a day goal will be breached by this weekend. Party extra hard for me and let's stacking giant, sweaty, bulging wads of cash.


05-25-2013 05:44 AM #36 clubdrock (Member)

Nice follow along. Just read it from start to finish. Congrats on your successes.

A few weeks back, you mentioned that you did a media buy with Media Reps that didn't produce a good return for you.

Can you go into more detail about why you think this campaign failed?


Just interested because I plan on doing media buys with Media Reps in the near future and would like to know what insights you gained from the campaign you ran with them.

Thanks


05-25-2013 06:22 AM #37 tmcalvin (Member)

that's awesome man.
I have a question, did you have an "a-ha" type moment of clarity where it just clicked for you?


05-25-2013 06:23 AM #38 cataclysm1987 (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by clubdrock View Post
Nice follow along. Just read it from start to finish. Congrats on your successes.

A few weeks back, you mentioned that you did a media buy with Media Reps that didn't produce a good return for you.

Can you go into more detail about why you think this campaign failed?


Just interested because I plan on doing media buys with Media Reps in the near future and would like to know what insights you gained from the campaign you ran with them.

Thanks
Basically I did 2 buys.

One NL on Eroprofile, another FR on XHamster

The XHamster traffic tanked like crazy. I lost around 600 bucks on a 1400 dollar buy

The NL traffic was about break even

You have to have an amazing angle because the price difference is severely inhibited by your ad decay. Having your ad CONSTANTLY SHOWING means zero impression cap, AKA everyone sees your shit 24 7...so they get sick of it fast.

It has to be a damn fine campaign to survive.

My advice would be to test the site first on Exo, TJ or some other service, THEN do the media buy. Know what your EPC is, make sure the traffic costs are way lower, then pick it up and make some money. Otherwise you stand to lose a shitload of money. Well I didn't lose a shitload but a few hundred bucks is a decent kick in the balls, yknow?


05-25-2013 06:24 AM #39 cataclysm1987 (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by tmcalvin View Post
that's awesome man.
I have a question, did you have an "a-ha" type moment of clarity where it just clicked for you?
My AHA moment is realizing that if a campaign doesn't at least break even at the beginning, throw that shit the fuck out.

I don't play around any more. Make me money or go home, especially in CPA marketing.

Someday perhaps I'll have the patience for list building, sales and what not, but right now this works the best


05-25-2013 08:09 AM #40 cashmoneyaffiliate (Member)

YEAHHHHHHH son you almost there, amazing following along i've gained A LOT from it cataclysm1987 keep it up, soon you'll be in the x,xxx crew


05-25-2013 02:46 PM #41 hd2010 (Member)

More updates please


05-25-2013 04:20 PM #42 cataclysm1987 (Member)

Of course.

This thread will probably be done this weekend though as I've pretty much made it to my goal, but we shall see


05-26-2013 06:02 AM #43 cataclysm1987 (Member)


05-29-2013 11:48 PM #44 travis589 (Member)

Any new update?


05-30-2013 12:19 AM #45 cataclysm1987 (Member)

Day 65...Bumped From My Best Offer!!

Hey all, this past Monday I was bumped from my best offer.

Looks like I'm back down to $100 profit per day. This sucks.

Anyways, I have been loading up my ad accounts like crazy and testing new angles. I quickly translated a campaign into Portuguese and started running Brazilian traffic to 3 different offers, Erovie, C-Date and Casual Club. I am trying to earn without risking any one offer could cut me out of an income stream, which is terrible, while overcoming caps and other issues, which has been a huge burden on me this entire time.

Hopefully I will get access to that campaign back again. If you are running Maduras Calientes, all I can say it, well, they are not very affiliate friendly If their business model isn't that consistently profitable, they should lower their payout or advise on traffic quality before bumping from an offer. I have only ever been bumped from one other offer and that was Erovie FR and I was running traffic from XHamster. Apparently that traffic quality is too low for Erovie...such is the nature of this business. If I get access to the campaign ever again (doubtful) I will be sure to filter out all traffic that is under 25 as best I can, but I doubt I will. They basically don't do business with anybody that doesn't meet their goals early on, so I'd recommend you either stay away or send your best quality traffic first.

Around $100 profit today, sadly. Back to only around 50% of my original goal. Bleh.


05-30-2013 01:24 AM #46 ungodly (Member)

Keep going man. If you are consistently hitting $100/day you already know $200 daily is not far away at all. Have you tried scaling any of your successful camps? Or are you already peaking out volume in those countries?

You'll make it brother, guaranteed.


05-30-2013 02:44 AM #47 cataclysm1987 (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by ungodly View Post
Keep going man. If you are consistently hitting $100/day you already know $200 daily is not far away at all. Have you tried scaling any of your successful camps? Or are you already peaking out volume in those countries?

You'll make it brother, guaranteed.
Yeah man it's hard to scale in these smaller countries. Great place to start for quick profits but moving into the 200-300 a day range or all the way up to the 1000 a day range gets tough.

I am ordering some more graphics and landing pages this next week or two once I get paid. It's going to be interesting how things progress.


05-30-2013 07:06 AM #48 cashmoneyaffiliate (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by cataclysm1987 View Post
Day 65...Bumped From My Best Offer!!

Hey all, this past Monday I was bumped from my best offer.

Looks like I'm back down to $100 profit per day. This sucks.

Anyways, I have been loading up my ad accounts like crazy and testing new angles. I quickly translated a campaign into Portuguese and started running Brazilian traffic to 3 different offers, Erovie, C-Date and Casual Club. I am trying to earn without risking any one offer could cut me out of an income stream, which is terrible, while overcoming caps and other issues, which has been a huge burden on me this entire time.

Hopefully I will get access to that campaign back again. If you are running Maduras Calientes, all I can say it, well, they are not very affiliate friendly If their business model isn't that consistently profitable, they should lower their payout or advise on traffic quality before bumping from an offer. I have only ever been bumped from one other offer and that was Erovie FR and I was running traffic from XHamster. Apparently that traffic quality is too low for Erovie...such is the nature of this business. If I get access to the campaign ever again (doubtful) I will be sure to filter out all traffic that is under 25 as best I can, but I doubt I will. They basically don't do business with anybody that doesn't meet their goals early on, so I'd recommend you either stay away or send your best quality traffic first.

Around $100 profit today, sadly. Back to only around 50% of my original goal. Bleh.
Don’t let it bother you mate it happens, the good thing is you now have a good idea of what works banner and LP wise in the specific country’s your targeting.

Some publishers can be really strict on quality, ask your affiliate manger which offers are better suited for under 25 traffic and which ones are best for over 25 and set up your landing page to redirect those horny guys to the appropriate offer.

P.S. If your struggling to get extra volume on web traffic in the specific country’s your targeting you should may be consider adult mobile in those same countries.


05-30-2013 08:08 AM #49 fjk87 (Veteran Member)

Depending on how your creatives looked, I'd try the same creative / lp style with some more mature images in it. Often enough this can help in terms of quality as older men will get attracted to those offers.

From what I know (never ran on plugrush) but I think they are doing thumbnails on blogs / websites is that right? If so, always make sure to mix in some more 'targetted' traffic from tubes that aren't clicks that actually might be looking for something different, just like with those thumbnail traffic visitors. There are definitely possibilities to increase quality, using more mature images, removing free from your banners / LPs and stuff, I'd definitely try with a different offer after making those adjustments and see if you can't get it back profitable.

Beside that, if you're running multiple sources, try to include a campaign identification in one of the S variables on the network. By doing so, the offer can see which campaign is backing out and which is not which might have saved you here. If the volume is significant, they'll definitely look into this stuff and maybe find a solution where you can run campaign X which is backing out but will ask / lower you to stop from campaign Y.


06-07-2013 03:07 AM #50 cataclysm1987 (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by fjk87 View Post
Beside that, if you're running multiple sources, try to include a campaign identification in one of the S variables on the network. By doing so, the offer can see which campaign is backing out and which is not which might have saved you here. If the volume is significant, they'll definitely look into this stuff and maybe find a solution where you can run campaign X which is backing out but will ask / lower you to stop from campaign Y.
Did that. Didn't work.

The harsh reality is, well...some advertisers are just not very affiliate friendly.


06-07-2013 08:58 AM #51 fjk87 (Veteran Member)

Quote Originally Posted by cataclysm1987 View Post
Did that. Didn't work.

The harsh reality is, well...some advertisers are just not very affiliate friendly.
The harsh reality is, well... if it backs out for them, they won't boot you from the offer.

Getting booted from offers definitely sucks, but try to find out WHY. It seems like it happened with a couple of advertisers for you, so I wouldn't bet it's all the advertisers fault.

Try adding some stuff like 30+, big demand for 30+, remove the words FREE, replace free with Free Trial or stuff like that so that the leads are somehow prepared to get charged sooner or later - or better spoken, try to find a funnel in which they do not expect everything for free as it was advertised for 100% free.

If traffic from several sources does not change the bad quality, it's probably your angle / your style of advertising. For sure there are advertisers that are not affiliate friendly, but in the end it's business. As long as they make a profit from your leads, you won't get pulled the offer, no matter they're friendly or not.


08-21-2014 10:17 PM #52 freemind (Member)

Did you ever hit your goal...?


08-23-2014 11:05 PM #53 DaveYount (Member)

Quote Originally Posted by cataclysm1987 View Post
You just became my favorite member of this forum LOL.

Subscribed and GL man!

YEEEEEAAAAAAHHHHH BUDDY! LIGHTWEIGHT. AINT NOTHIN BUT A PEANUT.


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