CPVLab issue or network stealing traffic? (12)

I hope this is the right place to post this, if not please move it to the right place.

Righ, something very strange is hapenning with my tracking links/network links.
I'm using cpvlab as a tracker and a well known network for offers. I'll try to explain as detailed as I can and I hope someone can shed some light.
First, couple of weeks ago I was running a german dating campaign. It was doing well but the CR had a weird pattern, it would convert for few hours like crazy then just stop converting for 2-3 hours (and that was happening on DE prime time). After a few days I thought this is strange and I tested the links with HMA proxies. 4 out of 6 proxies took me to the right offer but two of them took me to a bloody "rules" german lander and from there to a dating offer which I don't even have on my account.
So, it was going like this:
4 proxies : banner --> cpvlab link --> my lander --> network link --> correct offer
2 proxies : banner --> cpvlab link --> my lander ---> network link--> rules lander --> new offer
I tested network link directly in the browser and same results.

EDIT: Something to do with my server maybe (hacked into it) ?
When I told my AM about it, she said it must be the proxy :| (so basically the proxy wasnt german enough for the offer I was promoting but it was german enough for this new rules lander)

Anyway, I let it go and moved on. Now I'm pushing to a UK offer on the same network.
Now, evrything runs as normal BUT if I click the "Append SubID to Offer" on CPVlab and test the cpvlab link, I'm being taken to a fucking "rules" lander and a dif. offer :|
WTF
This time the network link works and take me to the correct offer when I do it directly in the browser. It's only when i do it through CPVLab with that option ticked, it takes me to this weird lander which isnt mine.

Any thoughts ?

Easy , just check number of click outs on cpvlab and number of click on aff network.

If the difference is more than 5% there is smth shady happening on networks side.

It has nothing to do with server getting hacked as long as you send through your aff link.

The number of clicks are more or less the same, but this is because the redirect to the strange rules lander is hapenning after the network link. I used HttpWatch to see the full redirect path and it's always after user hits the network link. So I guess the network record it as a hit to my offer but they "detect" wrong IP and send user to a BS lander and to a dif offer.

NO I meant total clicks on network for the offer you are running , not including geo redirects or other offers ( generally they are different in most networks ).

Yes, I'm talking about the clicks on this particular offer. They don't show the redirected clicks (if for example I run a DE offer and I get 100 clicks from DE and 50 from UK I only see 100, the UK ones dont show).

hmm.. the "Append SubID to Offer" part is definitely something to investigate. are you putting in your offer links correctly? i.e. offernetowrk.com/blah/go?subid=

If you don't have a parameter open to grab the appended subid, it's possible it's messing up the offer network pathing and it does a redirect/404 offer. For instance if you just straight up copy and paste your link, you might have your offer id at the end: &offer_id=2734. With CPVLab subid append it will end up like &offer_id=2734fdj78_sjd72_d8fskdkj, which is definitely going to mess things up.

Originally Posted by thefalcon

hmm.. the "Append SubID to Offer" part is definitely something to investigate. are you putting in your offer links correctly? i.e. offernetowrk.com/blah/go?subid=

If you don't have a parameter open to grab the appended subid, it's possible it's messing up the offer network pathing and it does a redirect/404 offer. For instance if you just straight up copy and paste your link, you might have your offer id at the end: &offer_id=2734. With CPVLab subid append it will end up like &offer_id=2734fdj78_sjd72_d8fskdkj, which is definitely going to mess things up.

I'm sorry if this thread doesnt make sense lol, but I'm at the beginning with all this paid advertising side of AM and the last thing I need is to worry about where my traffic goes after it hits network link. It's very frustrating :|

The question is exactly what does you affiliate URL look like when you have the append subid option ticked. Falcon's suggestion is very plausible. Load your CPVlab link through a proxy and watch the http headers. Look at your affiliate URL hop, e.g.

http://affiliatenetwork.com/derp/?affid=1234&offerid=5678&sid=xxx

http://affiliatenetwork.com/derp/?affid=1234&offerid=5678sid=xxx

support@cpvlab.com

Hit Rob up and discuss this issue with him, if it's anything about cpvlab issue he should be able to pinpoint it like a boss

Going on what you've disclosed.. yep you're being stolen from, so long as you are not getting any payout if the redirected lp + offer converts. Which I'm sure you aren't.

That said, I doubt it is the affiliate network but the actual offer advertiser. If you follow the redirect path, your affiliate network probably forwarded you to the offer correctly. Once the traffic has changed hands to the advertiser they can redirect it to their skim lp.

They probably try redirecting proxies to help block fraud, bots and Nigerian romance scammers etc. So the ass clowns redirect it and monetise the traffic in one way or another without paying you.

This is common if you send traffic of a non-accepted geo too and it is generally up to the aff network to redirect your traffic to offers that accept that geo.

If they are indiscriminately redirecting x% - xx% of you're traffic, that is just fucked.

This is why Jesus invented split testing.

If a FB reviewer uses an IP not in your nation , you are screwed.

Your offer would be a lot different than what you are aiming for.

That's why I started my thread: http://stmforum.com/forum/showthread...geted-by-my-ad

I see this sort of redirect taking place often on FB. I thought you guys knew some cool trick.