Building your own adult traffic source. Starting a group. (31)
Building your own adult traffic source. Starting a group.
So one of the goals I have this year is to start creating more assets I can rely on for generating daily income. Building a website is easiest way I know to how to do that, but I'm done with grinding out Adsense and Amazon sites. Time for something bigger and better.
Jay/usernameistaken from the forums here posted a short guide on his blog about starting your own tube site, and that's exactly what I'm going to do, and figured others here might be interested as well.
Whether adult is something your especially thrilled about or not, I think there's a lot of valuable experience and skills that can be gained by applying yourself to something like this, not to mention some big payoffs. Personally I love designing and coding things, and have been taking classes on the side for some months now. There's a lot of unknowns with starting something like this, but I'm confident working together as a group we can make more progress than any one individual going it alone.
So if this sounds appealing to you, my Sype is to the left, but leave a reply here too so others can add you easily.
Sounds intriguing. I took a stab at advertising those adult pages on facebook for a short time, hoping to create some sort of organic cashflow once I reached a certain number of fans, but I only pull 2.50 to 7.50 a day off of that. I also built a tumblr and it has near 600 followers, nothing big. My other goal was to leverage the traffic (naturally sending 200 to 300 clicks per day no hands) to a site that I would create around porn or something, but I never pursued it. Was thinking tube site like you said or a blog. In any case, definitely will be keeping up, and I'd be down to join a group.
HooAh, added you on skype, I'd be down.
You know I'm in 
I am in. Skype is chintz24. I have pretty much the same goal. To build something passive. Very Interested
I have been interested in doing this also. Skype name gooddrewman
I would suggest trying to build a site in a non-English language. Some of my first (crappy) affiliate dating sites were in Spanish and they are still getting way more organic traffic than they should, or would, if Google were on top of all the other languages as well as they are English. Seems pretty easy to still rank well. Just a thought...
I'm in. Added you on skype
My skype: cpapaul
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Originally Posted by brianb
I'd be interested in being a part of this project. I have lots of experience as a developer. Before I got into IM full time I was a senior front-end web engineer for Apple and I built the front-end of football.com. My skype is: endreality. I'm available for consulting on UI, SEO and marketing ideas. I don't do much coding anymore as I don't have the time, but I can still help out w/ ideas and suggestions.
If I could give you one big piece of advice, it would be to target the escort niche. Big volume, great quality. Probably shouldn't be saying this for my own sake!
Originally Posted by Finch
In case you guys want to include a SEO strategy, focussing on longtail escort keywords can be a good starting point. Lower volume overall, but those longtails are often pretty easy to rank for a start. Keep in mind, there are other keywords than 'Las vegas escort'
Originally Posted by fjk87
In case you guys want to include a SEO strategy, focussing on longtail escort keywords can be a good starting point. Lower volume overall, but those longtails are often pretty easy to rank for a start. Keep in mind, there are other keywords than 'Las vegas escort'
Originally Posted by thomasbhm
From a quality standpoint, it's easy to see why a punter who is willing to blow through $300 for an hour's play is a good target for an adult dating site.
I spoke to a number of owners/directors of high profile adult dating sites last year about what angle to take with my campaigns (i.e. What traffic do you like?). After several beers, there were some very interesting angles revealed - and escorts was one of them. I'm keeping the others to myself!
If you can find a way to build a website that reels in escort traffic, you will be very grateful that you did.
As long as we are on that topic.. Any good escort affiliate program?
This used to be my main source of income some time ago before I got out of adult. There's not that many people buying porn anymore since the rise of the tube sites. In fact, most of the tube sites are owned by some of the big affiliate programs (manwin, owners of brazzers I think. Long time since I've been on that side of IM)
I think the best recommendation I can give is going with a well researched niche. You are not gonna be able to compete with anyone in the Teens or Milf niche at this stage of the game unless you have serious amounts of money to drop. There are paysites for almost any niche you can think of. I used to run a bunch of blogs in some niches that used to bring a good (enough for me) amount of money every month. Last time I looked though, making paysite sales (around $30 per sale) is incredibly difficult unless you've gone reeeally niche and manage to beat the tube sites and old time players to the top of Google.
I've got a copy of the Mechbunny tube site script. Be prepared to spend money on the design. And then be prepared to spend more money on content,descriptions,etc. Unless you want to scrape the same vids and same descriptions from every other tube site on the net. By the way, if you have your own content, you need 2257 docs for everything.
I know it seems like it but I'm really not trying to discourage anyone
BTW, if anyone is interested I've got a TON of ex-girlfriend content (around 350gb between vids and pics) available. Full 2257 docs. I bought it some time ago with the plan of making an ex-gf tube paysite before I left adult for the mainstream side of the IM biz.
Originally Posted by rafael
I know it seems like it but I'm really not trying to discourage anyone
Doing a straight up paysite isn't something I'm interested in, or even have the stomach for to be honest.
The plan right now is to go INTL, focus on mobile, and use paid traffic to get things rolling. Monetizing with niche affiliate programs, camsites, my own adult dating campaigns, or maybe even putting it to a third party like Exoclick. At least that's my personal plan so far. I hate grinding away at SEO, but I know a few tricks to get the most of scraped content, and that was with full articles. Rewriting titles and descriptions sounds much more bearable to me.
The thing I've noticed is that the mobile experience on porn sites is pretty subpar. All the ones I've seen are cookie cutter designs, with buggy video playback. I think there's a lot of room for improvement there, as well as accommodating featurephone users.
thedudeabides: There's definitely money to be made there even with moderate traffic. But I wouldn't plan on relying on paysite sales for making good income.
The thing about tube sites is that they are basically giving away the content people used to pay for. The huge tube site owners which also own many of the paysites (manwin,etc) basically screwed over their affiliates by giving away the content and relying on advertising for income. Plus they advertise their own sites on their tube sites. Win-win situation.
I still have some blogs making paysite sales here and there , but nothing like in 2007-2008. Most of the income is from dating leads and some recurring income from webcam sites.
My tip would be: look around on the tube sites. Find which kind of free content they have the least. Focus on building on that niche. No matter how obscure it is, you will probably find paysites which offer free content and most even free video clips for tube sites these days.
Originally Posted by rafael
Most adult sponsors (that's what the paysite owners are called in adult) usually offer free content for their affiliates inside the affiliates area to be used as promo content.
A couple of years back this used to be mostly short hosted clips for sites, hosted photo galleries, photo zips,etc. Right now with the rise of the tube sites I'm guessing they are offering more and more video content. The idea is that affiliates could use this to promote the paysite.
Many sponsors also offer XML files with video clips, ready to be inserted in to your tube site script complete with descriptions. Duplicate content galore.
Join an adult sponsor and login to your affiliate area and you should be able to find some promo content.
How do you find which sponsor owns the site? Go to the porn paysite, go to the bottom of the page and look for the "Webmasters" link.
My recommendation? Go micro-niche. Weird stuff that is not saturated with free content on the tube sites and that is not easy to find.
this is a good idea~
My skype: enlyse
i'm interested to join
skype alex.poli
I did some research on this, you'll need to be careful about the laws. There's a law that you need to keep documentation about every porn actress you have on your site.
Basically I wouldn't run a tube site if you are located in the US, at least that's what I got from doing my research.
If you're business is located overseas and hosted overseas then I don't see any issues. Just the video hosting fees might outweigh the advertising profits until the site grows.
I still own and run my own paysites im also a sponsor see Britanniacash.com ive been in adult years, one thing for sure the rules are changing a lot, dont start a tube if you are based in the US. Dont start a paysite if you are in the UK new laws put the last nail in the coffin for any joined up UK side to the industry on the flip side start a tube if you are UK based but its hard going these days with the monster sites sucking in all of the traffic. So whatever you do, go niche. I would highly recommend tumblr for one of the best sources of traffic out there to get started on its newbie friendly. Couple it with outsourcing or bots and you can be onto a winner with traffic.
Most of the adult sponsors offer video clips for their affiliates. They take care of all the 2257 paperwork (that's the documentation law you are talking about), so you have nothing to worry about when you user sponsor provided content.
Of course, if you are gonna run a tube site with scraped content off sites all over the net, you could be in trouble with regards to 2257.
add me on skype: onlinetrafficpartners
Any update on this? How its going so far?
add me on skype: mralexkung
this still going on?
looking for group or can start one if anyone is interested
i'm pretty much an all in one package, my only weakness is seo and traffic
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