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03-04-2013 06:26 AM
#1
vipinext (Member)
too much downtime on beyondhosting?
Wondering are you guys also seeing too much of downtime these days over at beyondhosting? Suggest me some other providers..
03-04-2013 07:15 AM
#2
starrmikeh (Member)
You probably just need to upgrade.
03-04-2013 07:19 AM
#3
zeno (Administrator)
Out of interest, what plan are you on?
03-04-2013 07:45 AM
#4
vipinext (Member)
am on VPS768
03-04-2013 08:08 AM
#5
bullfist (Member)

Originally Posted by
vipinext
am on VPS768
Go to iWeb and get yourself a dedicated server for a few 100 a month. Been with them for 2 years and not a single second down.. Don't be cheap...
03-04-2013 12:18 PM
#6
vipinext (Member)

Originally Posted by
bullfist
Go to iWeb and get yourself a dedicated server for a few 100 a month. Been with them for 2 years and not a single second down.. Don't be cheap...
how many clicks are you sending with them a day?
03-04-2013 12:19 PM
#7
vipinext (Member)
also which plan would you suggest me to go with?
03-04-2013 12:45 PM
#8
Philwil (Member)
Currently on hostgator, I was thinking of switching to behoyndhosting, but really a lot of downtime?
03-04-2013 01:27 PM
#9
peanut (Member)
5 minutes in February for me...
03-04-2013 01:33 PM
#10
doryphoros (Member)
Was there downtime recently?
03-04-2013 04:53 PM
#11
bullfist (Member)

Originally Posted by
vipinext
how many clicks are you sending with them a day?
I have about 20 sites, 5 tracking platforms and not a single problem.. is say about 100K-200K from lots traffic sources..
03-04-2013 09:14 PM
#12
sandyone (Member)
Perhaps a service to alert one when our server's down would be worth it.
5 minutes down can cost a few bucks!
03-04-2013 09:26 PM
#13
2modest (Member)
https://www.pingdom.com/services/

Originally Posted by
sandyone
Perhaps a service to alert one when our server's down would be worth it.
5 minutes down can cost a few bucks!
03-05-2013 05:38 PM
#14
bigbyte (Member)
I am with WiredTree (VPS) and very happy. Great service and uptime.
03-09-2013 05:06 AM
#15
BeyondHosting-Tyler (Member)

Originally Posted by
peanut
5 minutes in February for me...
That's 99.999%. :-)
Most people have more outages than they even know about. Were constantly under the scrutiny of pingdom so we can't lie. I'd say we have about 20,000 pingdom checks on our services daily, we can see their traffic on our network.
Our hybrid/starter packages have the most downtime, but they are also the cheapest for a reason.. It is shared resources.
Ask any customer with a dedicated how our network uptime is. Minus a hiccup here and there during PLANNED NETWORK MAINTENANCE we've had absolutely 0 downtime the past 3 years.
Typical outages are from things out of our control such as ddos attacks and customers servers having exploited wordpress or other pieces of software running perl scripts that use up all their tcp connections.
03-09-2013 05:09 AM
#16
BeyondHosting-Tyler (Member)

Originally Posted by
vipinext
Wondering are you guys also seeing too much of downtime these days over at beyondhosting? Suggest me some other providers..
If your still having issues please PM me. I'll be happy to investigate why your VPS is having issues, as far as I can recall we've only had one minor host node issue the past few months.
03-09-2013 06:15 AM
#17
MJDUB (Senior Member)
Never had a single issue with Beyond, always quick to reply and always take care of EVERYTHING for me.
03-09-2013 08:35 AM
#18
monkeyking (Member)
Is VPS1024 under this hybrid/starter? or consider as dedicated?
03-09-2013 02:54 PM
#19
BeyondHosting-Tyler (Member)

Originally Posted by
monkeyking
Is VPS1024 under this hybrid/starter? or consider as dedicated?
https://beyondhosting.net/Virtual-Pr...x-VPS-Hosting/
VPS1024 is a VPS, hybrid/starter is like shared hosting with isolated resources and very very good performance. But because your sharing with others unexpected performance issues and outages can happen.
If your serious about affiliate marketing you should be on HARDWARE dedicated. PERIOD.
https://beyondhosting.net/Dedicated-...naged-Servers/
We just got 40 R610s in so if you want to get one nows the time, they sell out quick.
03-09-2013 03:41 PM
#20
blue_bird (Member)
I have the VPS1024 and I am happy with the server and beyondhosting. I have had NO problems with downtime and the beyond helpdesk has always responded to my questions almost immediately. Fast and Friendly service from beyond. I am very happy with their service and when I need a dedicated server I will upgrade with beyond hosting.
03-09-2013 05:17 PM
#21
cent01 (Member)
I just test something fun on my server at BeyondHosting.
Dell PowerEdge R610
Processor: Intel Quad Core Xeon E5620 2.4Ghz
Memory: 24GB
Redundant Power Supplys: Redundant Power Supplys
Raid Controller: Raid 10
Hard Drive 1: 256GB SSD
Hard Drive 2: 256GB SSD

03-09-2013 05:37 PM
#22
jlang (Member)
@cento01: What test is that?
03-09-2013 07:26 PM
#23
blue_bird (Member)
@cento - not sure how to read the graph. Did u hit the server 87,903 times in under a minute and the longest time it took to respond is 4 sec?
03-09-2013 08:39 PM
#24
cent01 (Member)
My graph is 87,903 hits by 10,000 user in 1 minute.
It get 3 errors and 17,248 timeout.
03-09-2013 10:37 PM
#25
river (Member)
I've tried both Hostgator & Liquid web, neither came anywhere near to the quality BeyondHosting supply! I've spoken with Tyler on Skype a few times & hes usually happy to help even though he's not part of tech support. I'd grab an upgrade on your package and see how you get on!
03-10-2013 06:15 PM
#26
wdigital (Member)

Originally Posted by
cent01
My graph is 87,903 hits by 10,000 user in 1 minute.
It get 3 errors and 17,248 timeout.
At the risk of asking a silly/dumb question, is that good or bad?
03-10-2013 10:31 PM
#27
BeyondHosting-Tyler (Member)

Originally Posted by
wdigital
At the risk of asking a silly/dumb question, is that good or bad?
Thats bad!
Let me outline something for you guys.
The whole test that blitz.io does is concurrent connections, it does not actually test any sort of server performance or simulate connection load from lots of different types of connections or browsers.
A server can be tuned to pass blitz.io with flying colors, however you don't exactly want that. If your server does the number of connections at some point it will be very vulnerable to being taken down by ddos or other distributed request type attacks. The common goal here is to test a box and make sure it accepts the number of request you plan on sending it without dropping them. Accepting more is setting yourself up to be taken advantage of heavily.
Feel free to pm me with questions or hit up my skype at bh-tyler mon-fri.. remember im not tech support so if its an account related question and you're a customer use the support system.
Thanks!
03-10-2013 10:43 PM
#28
sandyone (Member)
BeyondHost rocks.
Their service second to none.
03-12-2013 06:49 PM
#29
_mcr_ (Moderator)
Tyler, I'm curious as to why you recommend hardware dedicated.
For work (not affiliate stuff), I have a hardware dedicated with Lunarpages (quad-xeon, $6,000/yr) and cloud servers with Rackspace ($25,000/year). I use the Rackspace account primarily because I have several web servers, 2 load balancers, 3 mysql database severs, 1 ad server, probably 10 or 12 servers total, and I like the flexibility of allocating resources and spinning up servers as needed. The Lunarpages server is my old server and is mostly idle now.
My point is, wouldn't it be better for serious affiliates to jump on a basic cloud server and then spin up more servers and load balancers as traffic grows versus being locked into a hardware server?
03-12-2013 08:30 PM
#30
sandyone (Member)
What kind of traffic volume can a 25k a year cloud server set up handle?
WOW!
03-13-2013 05:36 PM
#31
_mcr_ (Moderator)

Originally Posted by
sandyone
What kind of traffic volume can a 25k a year cloud server set up handle?
WOW!
What's most important is handling spikes in traffic. Page speed in Google Analytics is rated at 0.00s, yes EXTREMELY fast. It's not unusual for the server to get a million hits within a few minutes, and several thousand hits PER SECOND. The ad server alone serves up around 20 million or 30 million impressions per month, which is not a ton, but it's the spikes that matter. Overall we get hundreds of millions of hits per month. We send out a lot of HTML newsletters, graphic heavy, sometimes a single batch has more than 200,000 recipients. We have a very powerful email engine (same one American Express uses) and can finish the batch in 10 minutes.
The result is that you have thousands of people receiving and opening your newsletter at the same time, generating millions hits, so your server needs to have the resources or it will melt down, or loading will be too slow and you will lose clicks and lose readers.
The email engine alone costs close to $100,000 and has insane analytics, tracking, reporting, lead generation, cloud connectors/API, many very advanced things. It's the bleeding edge. Not very useful for IM though, it's enterprise-level stuff where you need to manage client accounts and do lead generation and scoring and integrate with Salesforce, etc.
The other important thing is redundancy, all servers are duplicated to spread out traffic, which is done by the load balancers. Also if a server breaks, the load balancer simply directs traffic to the others, and you don't lose a single click! Lastly, all server images are backed up daily so if anything breaks you're back up and running in minutes.
Let me know if you have any other questions.
Based on the reviews here I am sure BeyondHosting is a very good host and they know this stuff even better than I do. I just looked at their site, they don't seem to have a true elastic cloud offering, but for 99% of internet marketers VPS is largely sufficient. Even shared hosting isn't bad, I ran high traffic on a shared plan with no problems.
03-18-2013 07:01 PM
#32
BeyondHosting-Tyler (Member)

Originally Posted by
_mcr_
Tyler, I'm curious as to why you recommend hardware dedicated.
For work (not affiliate stuff), I have a hardware dedicated with Lunarpages (quad-xeon, $6,000/yr) and cloud servers with Rackspace ($25,000/year). I use the Rackspace account primarily because I have several web servers, 2 load balancers, 3 mysql database severs, 1 ad server, probably 10 or 12 servers total, and I like the flexibility of allocating resources and spinning up servers as needed. The Lunarpages server is my old server and is mostly idle now.
My point is, wouldn't it be better for serious affiliates to jump on a basic cloud server and then spin up more servers and load balancers as traffic grows versus being locked into a hardware server?
Because those types of cloud machines guarantee you no sort of cpu, disk or memory resources. You could be waiting on CPU or swapping all your memory for all you know.
Sure it may be flexible but in the long run of things you will have more reliable and consistent performance. Were about to release our cloud company which is all vmware and emc san that addresses all these issues and we will push that. Rackspace uses openstack IIRC.
We have a few large customers with private vmware cloud setups we've built for them. One of the current biggest is
http://senddroid.com/, they are doing over 10k request per second on just ad request alone.
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